help!!!!! there something wrong with my doe

[kassie]

Hey guys I went to a show and now my goats are sick raspy breathing my vet told me to give penn and dex I did that yesterday as will I today and tommaro .the doe I am worried about is a 5 year old nubian doe she is about a 130 pounds over the last few months every once and a while I would notice she had a little white foam while chewing cud just a little, well this morning I went out and she has lots of foam and is consantly moving her mouth I opened her mouth to see if I could see any blockages there were none in sight she is not showing any sighns of bloat besides the foam she seems fine ran out to be milked any ideas guys ? she is on alfalfa hay ,corn ,beetpulp, and grain I used a herbal wormer last night day before and the day before as directed. but I dont understand that the foam has been there in very small amounts all along temps normal , milks normal , acts normal just lots of foam

[mygoat]

Those herbal wormers taste horrible (along with being dangerous when used according to label) so she may just have worked up more foam this time around trying to get the taste out.

How long have you had this doe? You could just be unused to her foaming. I know of several goats, though none mine, that would foam at the mouth for no apparent reason.

[susanne]

i would have her teeth checked from the vet.

[Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians]

Lets add one more thing to not using herbal wormers...unless you fecal is a given, but lets also add that if you don't have a closed herd, that just milks for housemilk...but pushing for production, showing etc. having does with worm burdens that you don't know about, simply stresses their systems.

When you show you really have to be on top of your goats immunity. If you are not working on your colostrum program, feeding the oldest does colostrum to all kids even if it's just a few cc, and vaccinating your oldest does for problems in your area...staph, pnemonia, tetanus...than you can be expected for several shows to bring home everything.

Pennicillin isn't the drug of choice for pasteurella, although it's so shocking to me he did perscribe Dex. You would be better off purchasing any 200 mg tetracycline, biomycin or La200 and using it and ditching the pennicillin, or if he won't bow up all on you ask for Naxcel, it's for pnemonia.

White foam is a doe showing you an acid rumen. Molassas in your grain mix? Did you feed her more grain because you were at the show? A bad molar, something posionous....small amounts is either nutritonal or a bad mouth bite. Perhaps the herbal wormer killed off beneficial bacteria and you now have an acidodic goat. Give her baking soda, if she doesn't want to eat it, than tube her with it mixed into water.

How much beet pulp? Grain as in oats? Or grain as in mixed grains does it contain molassas?

Do you run fecals to know what worms you have?

When over this you might want to think about vaccinating for pasteurella especially if you haul goats around in the summer humidity. Vicki

[deetu]

I had one doe that would foam at the corner of her mouth, sometimes a little, sometimes it looked like someone attacked her with shaving cream. Three vets looked at her with no answers.

The guy at the Co-op extention said it was a reaction to a certain mold on the hay and to give her Montmorillonite Clay that Brown's Feed has. I was able to get a pound of it from a cow farmer who bought Brown's feed and it cleared up. Every once in a while it will pop up and I give them a little and it's gone. Apparently the clay bonds to the mold so it doesn't disrupt their system.

I will give Probiotics after.

ps Get the Biomycin if you decide; it doesn't hurt like LA2000.

[kassie]

I took her to emergency visit she has a severe upper respitory infection she also said the foam is because the infection I got X-ray taken because earlier she was drinking but alote of the water was coming back out (befor she swallowed it all ,she would take a couple gulps and a quarter of it would come back out )out I was afraid there was blockage so vet gave her barium 25ml to see if it passed on her x-rays ( it did) vet administered subQ fluids she was a bit dehydraded and sent me home with batril and Metoclopramide and probios Sooooo I ended up with a bill of.............................$235.28 owell I love my sassy girl shes the herd queen thanks all for input Oh vet also checked teeth she said they were good Kassie

[Minelson]

That's not too bad of a price with x-rays and all. Is she feeling any better yet?

[kassie]

yes she is alert agine still not wanting to eat really but I am gonna keep a close eye on her thanks agine kassie

[kassie]

went out this morning and sassy drank a lot of water was having a hard time but was eating grain and hay I no I am not out in the clear yet but lots of improvement