Please help me with my baby buckling's problems.:(

deafgoatlady · #1 06/22/08, 10:26 AM

Hey.
It looks like my baby buckling got worsen. I couldnt figure out. I gave him probios to see if maybe his stomach hurts. and it is not. I looked at his gums and his eye lids. It is pale. Not white quite there. So I wormed him with cydentic orally. And now he still wont eat. I couldnt figure out then today I check on him today. I look at him very closely. and exam him. And it looks like his nose is snot with green. Is that good or not? I wondered if he have puemonia or not?? Look i cannot hear his chest becuz I am totally deaf. So I have to look for signs and that is my problem right there i cannot hear. I have hard time to put tempature on him. I just cant read that stupid temp. But i can feel his ears kinda cool. And the weather is very very hot and humid and we have a lot of rain.

The only antibotic that I have is LA200 right now on my hand. So let me know. Thanks..

deafgoatlady · #2 06/22/08, 11:23 AM

Bump!

Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians · #3 06/22/08, 11:24 AM

Your post is why I raise my kids on prevention. By the time you are worming a kid who is down, it's usually too late. Anemia cuases the immunity a young kid has, which is limited to vaccination and the quality of the colostrum he got, to lower, everything you have on your place then that would normally be laughed at my his immunity becomes an emergency. Kids don't die from worms or cocci, they die from opportunistic bacteria and dehydration. The worms and cocci are only the ones who put them in that condition for these bacteria to take hold. So if you take care of the worms and cocci at 3, 6, 9 and 12 weeks old...you have healthy kids at weaning who can then take on the very stressfull time of weaning. More kids are killed at weaning than any other time because they are going into weaning with worm and cocci burdens.

Cold ears and it usually means his organs are shutting down now. Without getting rehydrated his prognosis is grim. Do you have lactated ringers you can give him subq? This is the one thing that everyone should have in their emergency kit. It will take the Cydectin 12 hours to kill off the adult worms sucking his blood, and yes if all you have is LA200 (the next time you purchase tetracycline pick any other 200 mg tetracycline but it) than start him..3.5cc per 100 pounds under the skin...but without getting rehydrated...which doesn't mean pumping his rumen filled with electrolytes and water...he simply won't be able to pull through. A better choice would be a sulfa so you can treat the bacterial pnemonia at the same time you are treating the cocci he likely has also. Vicki

deafgoatlady · #4 06/22/08, 11:28 AM

I am doing the coccidia prevention too. I have been doing this every three weeks. I use albon once a day for 5 days. Right now it is his 3rd today. Should I give him twice a day instead of once a day. I will give him LA200. I dont have lact. ringers. I have heard about that one before. Well I will give him nutri drench for right now. Thanks

Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians · #5 06/22/08, 07:02 PM

Usually when you use Albon for cocci prevention you dose it by half on days 2, 3, 4 and 5. When you use it for treatment of cocci or for bacterial infections you dose it at the number 1 days level. Make sure you are using enough. Most albon and it's knockoffs are 12.5% which means nearly 1cc per 1 pound...yes 1cc per 1 pound...it's technically something like 1cc for every 1.4 pounds but it is way too much drug to be giving orally to a kid or an adult, without tubing. If your sulfa is only a 12.5% and we have the exact dosages for it on goatkeeping101 at dairygoatinfo.com if you don't give enough it is worthless. If your Albon is another strength find out what it is and doublecheck your dosages, if he was on day 3, it would be taking care of the snotty green nose. Vicki

Sweet Goats · #6 06/23/08, 11:43 AM

How is this little guy doing? I know you can not hear his chest for rattling, but what about putting your hands on his sides up front? Could you feel it?
What does his mouth feel like? Is it cool?

deafgoatlady · #7 06/23/08, 04:24 PM

The buckling is still around. It looks like his ears is warm now. But i took him to the vet so the vet can show me how do the lact. ringers. VERY interesting and easy do that. It is a must to have the lact. ringer in home just in case. The vet told me to take lact. ringers home and keep it just in case. That is nice of him. He check everything. He couldnt figure out what is wrong. But he said his temp is 104.something. So it is kinda too warm. So he gave him banamine and some kine of shot for to help to start the rumen.Not the Vit. B complex. Something else. I cant spell or pronouce the word. And it took me surprisely that the vet went go away and give him injectable ivermtenic. That makes me worried. And i didnt realize that he was going to give that as shots. And it burns him soo BAD! I dont want that again. I thought we are suppose to give that as orally. Anyways. He said his gums and his eyes is pink but he went go head and do that becuz he couldnt collect the pooh. I told him i couldnt get pooh either becuz he wont eat and drink much.. He couldnt figure out. So I am going to keep doing the lact. ringers. Thanks.