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06/11/08, 12:27 PM
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stolen buckling, then got butchered
i sold a buckling to a breeder in alabama last spring. i got an e-mail from her on monday that the little guy was missing and they were searching for him. no signs that he left or got out.
finally they found his guts on the edge of the forest on a tarp. somebody had stolen him and butchered him on the spot and took only the carcass away.
please everybody, have an eye on your animals
Last edited by susanne; 06/11/08 at 12:57 PM.
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06/11/08, 01:19 PM
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Ug, that's disgusting. How vile of someone to take something so important to someone else without asking. If some family really needed the food, I would give them a wether. But to take someone's BUCK who is HALF their herd is despicable.
Thanks for letting us know.
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06/11/08, 01:38 PM
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It happens fairly regularly. You've got to watch your stock ... there are predators with two-legs out there as well.
I would hate losing an animal, but I hate even worse the thought that someone with knives came on to my property without me knowing it.
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06/11/08, 01:46 PM
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so sorry to hear this..............sue
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06/11/08, 01:50 PM
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here he is, just before he left for alabama. on another forum somebody mentioned that it was very similar in the 70's with the energy crisis when people just got out and butchered other peoples lifestock. how terrible.
i will repeat that breeding but of course to get something similar is not guarantied.
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06/11/08, 01:52 PM
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WOW he was a little angel.
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06/11/08, 02:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by susanne
on another forum somebody mentioned that it was very similar in the 70's with the energy crisis when people just got out and butchered other peoples lifestock. how terrible.
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I remember that. Farmers would go out in the fields to feed their cattle, and find one butchered, often with just the hindquarters, or even just one hind leg, missing. It was happening all over.
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06/11/08, 02:33 PM
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OH MY! So Sorry, not just for the owners who have owned him for I take it almost all of his life, but for you the breeder. I know how hard it can be on breeders to find out animals they had so high hopes for get stolen, killed, or get sick in die.
Susanne, Im sooo sorry.
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06/11/08, 03:13 PM
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Where in Michigan are you located?
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06/11/08, 03:21 PM
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Aww, he was a gorgeous boy too. *sigh* could they not just go to the local auction house if they were that desperate, and pick up a 30.00 goat? Makes me SO angry,
Did she notify the police? Did she tell any of her neighboring farmers?
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06/11/08, 04:32 PM
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oh my! thats terrible. I just sold a wether for barbeque and I was/am worried because they kept playing with my nice new expensive (to me)boer buckling for next years season while talking in spanish. I kept telling them "that ones not for sale, I need him to make more babies for next year......." they gave me money down till they can pick the wether up so I think they are honest but I'm still a little worried that my buck will come up missing.
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06/11/08, 04:53 PM
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I can only say that with five dogs, I feel fairly safe. If you have livestock how do you not have a bunch of dogs so no one could come uninvited? My dogs sleep outside during the warm months and I doubt anyone would take on that many. Keeps all the other unwanteds away, too (coyotes, coons, etc.)
Poor little goat, he was beautiful.
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06/11/08, 04:54 PM
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Now that's just wrong! My buck is not only our herdsire, he's my baby. I would protect my animals the same as my family. I would also feed anyone who asked. I just can't understand people like that. Did they have a LGD? Ours patrols the whole farm, he loves his horses as much as his goats, and Heaven forbid anbody looks cross eyed at his cat!
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06/11/08, 05:12 PM
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Gosh, thats awful.  No matter how hungry you are, you dont have to steal other peoples animals. I say accept charity or go hunting (and not domestic animals or on private property).
Geez. If I could have a talk with the subhuman that did that...... 
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06/11/08, 09:05 PM
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That is just terrible that people feel they have to steel someone's livestock to eat.
I would give anyone food that needed it & all they'd have to do is ask. Nothing I hate worse than someone steeling from me & then they butchered it to & left the mess for the owners to clean up.
He was such a sweet looking little little guy too. We sure don't need a replay of the 70's!!
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06/11/08, 09:56 PM
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this sort of thing is why i don't offer my neighbors any goat meat. most of them are Hispanic, and while i have nothing against them as people, i know that in their culture goat meat is popular, and i don't want to give them any ideas about the dairy goats in my herd. i don't know them well enough to trust them that much.
i'm so sorry about your buckling.
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06/12/08, 12:55 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by susanne
i sold a buckling to a breeder in alabama last spring. i got an e-mail from her on monday that the little guy was missing and they were searching for him. no signs that he left or got out.
finally they found his guts on the edge of the forest on a tarp. somebody had stolen him and butchered him on the spot and took only the carcass away.
please everybody, have an eye on your animals
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No "normal" person would do this. I don't believe for a minute that it had anything to do with hunger.
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06/12/08, 06:54 AM
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the first time in ten years, the neighbor planted a tomato field and hired some farm worker. i also do not believe this had anything to do with hunger.
not far from where thor was butchered, two calfs were stolen from the pasture last week ,butchered and only the meat taken away. this is a criminal activity, that does not sound like they are doing it because they are hungry.
what is really sad is, that some people are ruin the reputation of a certain group.
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06/12/08, 07:21 AM
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I also find it hard to believe it was starving people trying to provide food for their families. Let's be honest- if you had starving kids at home, would you take the time to carefully field dress the animal?? I'm thinking you would take home ANYTHING to might provide nourishment.
I'm so sorry about your boy. How very sad.
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06/12/08, 07:36 AM
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Well, I'll face the music here ...
If *I* am hungry enough then I'm going to do it. I'm not going to let my family ever starve when there is any option at all to feed them, even if it means theft. However, I know that such a thing would almost never happen due to the vast number of other options I would have. Heck, I can identify at least 6 edible plants in every season that I could eat my fill on before ever resorting to stealing livestock. It's such a remote last resort that I can't for the life of me imagine under what situations I'd need to consider it.
What you have here with the current situation is something more dire. It's a twisted mind, or someone with such a sociopathic mindset that they've actually sought out what would be every other person's last resort.
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