This is amazing...

lijj · #1 06/01/08, 10:28 PM

Well yesterday, my nubian doe had twins. I saw the afterbirth (?) come out and everything. Of course I figured she was done, she wasn't fat or anything and she seemed fine and was eating normally.

Tonight I had to go somewhere and when I came back I found ANOTHER kid lying on the ground. She must have just had it right before I got home. It was just laying there, looking like it was dead, but it was alive. So I started rubbing it and it got a little life into it, its legs still seemed pretty weak but I kept at it. It's mother didn't seem to want anything to do with it--she was probably thinking, "That's not mine, I did that yesterday!" The doe seems fine, she had some more afterbirth passing out and I'm pretty sure she's done now. I believe she is eating grass at the moment... she doesn't seem to have a care in the world right now!!

Anyway, I milked the doe out and have enough for at least two feedings. It's been over 24 hours, I hope there was some colostrum left in her udders. It's been about 2 hours since I started rubbing the kid down, she's pretty dry now. I took her inside the house and helped her to stand... she's able to stand for a while by herself now. After a while, you could tell she started to get pretty hungry and was actually climbing all over me. So I got the bottle out and was able to get some of the milk into her. I'm going to go back out in a few minutes and get some more in her because I think she was still hungry.

So have you ever had this happen to you? A doe has twins, then 24 hours later has another healthy kid and she is healthy herself? Usually the kid is dead by then, or the mother shows symptoms that she's sick. My dad said he hasn't seen anything like this before... I'm excited to have a bottle baby though

Jyllie63 · #2 06/02/08, 05:09 AM

Wow!!!

Patty0315 · #3 06/02/08, 06:33 AM

Mom is probally lacking calcuim . I would keep a close eye on her . make sure she is getting at least 3cups of alfalfa daily.

I would also give Mom and babies bo-se.

remember to worm Mom also.

patty

lijj · #4 06/02/08, 06:42 AM

I wormed her yesterday after I thought she was done kidding

She still has afterbirth hanging out of her and it's been probably 10 hours since she had the kid...

Cara · #5 06/02/08, 09:51 AM

The woman I help out with her Nubians had that twice this year after never having it before. Unfortunately she lost them both and almost one of the does. I didn't know about the calcium....I'll mention that to her.

Backfourty,MI. · #6 06/02/08, 10:02 AM

well congratulations!! That little bottle baby will be spoiled rotten, glad that momma & the 1st 2 are doing well.

jBlaze · #7 06/02/08, 11:41 AM

I thought that after they passed the after-birth that they were done. wierd.
Thanks for sharing, I will remember this. So glad you found the baby live!

Sweet Goats · #8 06/02/08, 12:05 PM

I had it happen three years ago. She had twins, the after birth was hanging and finally fell out. What she did not eat I threw away. The next morning my doe was not right, she was on the ground and trashing around. I went into her and pulled out a baby. I was shocked and mad. It was a brown baby which I had never gotten form her before and a doe, so I threw the baby on the ground because I was so mad, and when I did that she started to breath. Now this was 20 hours later, and this baby stunk like no other, it was like she was rotten which she was. Now this baby had no placenta and that means no umbilical cord. Mom wanted nothing to do with her at all, so she was our first bottle baby ever. my daughter named her HOPE. In Hopes she would make it. She did. That is the reason I go into every doe after they are done if they have less then three, It is a good thing I do because this year 4 hours after another doe kidded, (that is when I got home). I pulled out a 15 lbs dead doe after she had twins already. I bounced her and felt nothing but something kept eating at me to go in and check her. So as people say I am really dumb and it is a over kill for going into all my does, but it for ones lets me know there are no more in there and it helps them lose the placenta faster. I am by no means telling anyone to do this, it is something I do.

GoldenWood Farm · #9 06/02/08, 02:42 PM

That is cool

. Does do have two horns though. The twins could have been from one and she passed the afterbirth from that horn then had the second from the second horn the next day. I have does do that. Some have the twins from one horn then pass the afterbirth then proceed to have the other baby(s).

Justine

Zone · #10 06/02/08, 04:17 PM

I go into all does after they have kidded regardless of how many they have had. It is my practice and a good prevention. IMO

lijj · #11 06/02/08, 05:52 PM

She finally passed the afterbirth this afternoon... she seems fine and is eating normally! I was just so surprised that the kid was still alive after being in there for more than a day.

Freeholder · #12 06/02/08, 06:29 PM

A couple of years ago, one of my Kinder does tried to do this to me. I had just checked on her, went back out about half an hour later and found a dead kid in the stall. I was pretty sure she wasn't done, but nothing was happening, and nothing happened, and nothing happened. When I checked inside, I couldn't even feel any more kids, but it just didn't seem right, so I took her to the vet, who pulled a nice healthy set of twins from way, deep inside! That was the first (and hopefully the last) time I've needed a vet's intervention in a kidding, in the 25 years I've had goats. Those twins weren't even close to presenting to be born -- if I hadn't taken the doe to the vet, it would probably have been at least the next day before they were born -- and hard to tell if they would still have been alive.

Kathleen

sungirl · #13 06/02/08, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by lijj

I'm excited to have a bottle baby though

Trust me, that will end in 3 months!

tioga12 · #14 06/03/08, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sungirl

Trust me, that will end in 3 months!

Awww, it's not that bad! Once you get to feeding twice a day it's easier. It gets routine. I only minded it when I had to go out in the cold at night to feed them. This kind of weather makes it nice. :-)

Congratulations!
I'm curious if you got a buck and a doe or two does?
I bet you were glad to get that second one!

~Annette

lijj · #15 06/03/08, 11:38 AM

oh yes, it was a buck and 2 does... a lot better than last year!

PETSNEGGS · #16 06/03/08, 12:26 PM

deleted duplicate sorry

PETSNEGGS · #17 06/03/08, 12:27 PM

Wow, that is what I was so afraid of and with it being my first time with goats birthing and it was both of their first times too.... Hummm I didn't go in my second goat... that was Sunday and she seems to be doing really great though and I see nothing oozing from her and she is nursing and eating every well... Now I'll be wondering... I am so glad your goat was fine and how neat to have that baby live. congrats

tioga12 · #18 06/03/08, 05:39 PM

Oh, so there's triplets?

I thought you must've been bummed if she only had one. Cool!
The girls only saw two when they walked by yesterday. So do they all look the same?

ETA:
Oh, I see that you started this thread by saying twins on the first day.

Sorry about that!