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05/26/08, 05:37 PM
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quickest butchering method?
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05/26/08, 05:40 PM
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The only other way I know how it could be done is to slit its throat. And this method probably takes awhile. I would personally invest in a gun... if not... get a friend/relative/nearby meat goat person to come out and do the deed.
I have yet to do any butchering of the goats. I have only done chickens and rabbits and a good solid wack on the back of the head/neck does them just fine. Don't think it would work too well on goats though. Ugh.
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05/26/08, 05:51 PM
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Theres a great posting on this. most say that slitting the throat is just as quick though I dont see how, but then again I have not seen either method use on a goat, but have had to shoot horses and dogs and the gun seems to do it very quickly.
I dont think you have to have a permit for home gun, I know the last thing we put down was a great dane (bloat at 3 am) and we did it with a 22 and she went down instantly
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05/26/08, 06:04 PM
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I do the shooting for a gentleman friend of mine who can't bring himself to do it. Shooting definitely is the best way. On a pig, I both shot the pig in the head and slit its throat. Slitting throats is NOT easy; hide and tendons are tougher than expected. I can't imagine doing this to a goat I cared about unless it was unconscious.
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05/26/08, 06:32 PM
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slitting seems to be the more barbaric if you ask me, the toughest part of a goat or deet is the neck
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05/26/08, 06:44 PM
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05/26/08, 07:58 PM
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A goat has a very hard head. Don't try to knock it out or try to use a gun as small as a 22, it may just ricochet. It would be preferable to slit it's throat instead of those two methods.
I use a 12G shotgun, pretty gruesome, but it is no fail and it sure bleeds out. Hubby uses his pistol, but i don't like pistols, I like my shotgun.
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05/26/08, 08:03 PM
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You need to find someone who can shoot it.
Remember that goats play full speed head butting games. You couldn't hit one in the head hard enough to affect it at all.
Hopefully someone you know has a gun and knows how to use it.
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05/26/08, 08:09 PM
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05/26/08, 08:49 PM
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then have a pet goat then. if theres a butcher shop near you or a taxidermy they may do it for you, I dont know
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05/26/08, 08:54 PM
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05/26/08, 09:37 PM
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I wanted to know what is the quickest way to butcher a goat.. Other than a gun.. I'm not too keen on guns and don't want to have to get a gun permit just for butchering.. I wouldn't mind a pellet gun but doubt it would be strong enough.. So what would be the next quickest way to butcher? I want the goat to suffer as little as possible and would like it to be quick enough that they didn't even know what happened.. Dealing with the carcass I can do fine.. But I want the actually killing to be as quick and painless as possible for the goat..
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You live in Florida, you DO NOT need a permit to own a hand gun or a rifle.
If you, in the future, would want to carry a concealed weapon then you'll need a permit which can be gotten after you take a Concealed Weapons Permit class. There are gun shows that go through Florida about every three or four months. You can go to one of the shows, sign up for the CWP class and get a certificate within hours to be able to apply for a CWP.
For dispatching goats, if you can't or won't go the gun route, which to me is the most quick and painless method, then you need a good sharp butchering knife for slitting their throats, real deep, from side to side in a very quick motion.
Do your best to not let the hair touch the meat. I've heard it gives a nasty taste to it. Something a country Florida guy taught me was to mix a quart or so of white vinegar to about a gallon of water and swab the carcass with the mixture, using a hand towel soaking wet with the mixture, after the goat was skinned, but before it was cut up.
I hope this helps.
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I only know of two ways, shooting or cutting the throat. Personally we use a .40 caliber pistol, as like Feral Nature said....smaller ones sometimes will only ricochet or not do the job on the first shot. We learned the hard way with a 22 once.
I won't slit the throat of an animal until I have shot it first, just my own personal phobia of them feeling it.
Try a butcher, we have some that will kill the animal for you, clean it you do the rest.
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05/26/08, 10:38 PM
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Kitti, the thought of an ice pick to the back of a goats head is awful to me. There is no guarantee at all you will kill it. Though I don't have experience with an ice pick to the back of the head method, I doubt very much it would kill them instantly or at all. If you don't want to shoot it, you will have to slit it's throat.
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05/27/08, 08:09 AM
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What's with the "removed" business. Buy a gun, you have no idea how many uses a gun has. Come spring I seem to be shooting at something once a week. Other than a chainsaw, a gun maybe the second most important tool on the farm....Gasoline not required. The ice pick method sounds like something out of a horror flick....buy a gun.
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05/27/08, 08:12 AM
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I do not want a gun.. Ever.. Would a moderator please remove this thread?
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05/27/08, 02:02 PM
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no one is trying to make you buy a gun, but the fact is that it is the fastest most humane way to kill a goat for consumption.
Personally I think you need to figure out your fear of guns and get over it with the way this world is going. they can be life savers and life takers, just like a car, house or food.
If you want to butcher the goat, then we have told you the best ways, anything else and you can be fined or charged with cruelty to animals in most places.
Im not a gun person, but Im a real person, and the 2 sayings I stand by its guns cause crime like flys cause ----, and an armed society is a polite society.
If you ever find some one to take you to the firing range youll be amazed at how easy it is and how it feels to know you can protect yourself if it ever should come to that. Learn gun safety and teach it.
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05/27/08, 02:08 PM
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I came here asking how to quickly butcher a goat, without a gun.. You don't know why I don't want to have a gun so please don't judge me and just drop it already..
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05/27/08, 02:50 PM
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The only other way I believe is to slit its throat. Get a very sharp knife and make the incision deep, making sure to get the jugular veins.
I am sorry for mentioning the other option. Please forgive.
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