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Old 05/25/08, 07:28 PM
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Question May I Use This Forum as a Source in a Paper? (answers by monday)

For my english final, I have to write a research/thesis paper. My thesis is along the lines of "I believe milk from commercial dairies sold to the public should be pasteurized, while milk produced at home for home consumption should not." Of course, those arent the exact words I put in my paper, but they get the point across here.

I started with some history, then an account of modern milking practices. Next, I am talking about the debate between raw and pasteurized milk, the pros and cons of each.

I remember reading a great discussion on raw milk here from a couple weeks ago, and I was wondering if anyone would mind if I use it in my "pro raw milk" section? The link would, of course, be in the bibliography.

Here is the link to that thread:

http://homesteadingtoday.com/showthr...lk+pasteurized

I am not 100% sure if I will be using it in my paper.

Please post here or PM me if you'd prefer me not to use it or if you approve. Also, if the mods could tell me whether it is legal or whatever.

Sorry it took me so long to get around to asking. I am about done with the paper but just remembered that thread yesterday.

Thank you!
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Old 05/25/08, 08:38 PM
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You don't think that maybe there's better information out there than commentary thrown back and forth here on a forum?

Don't get me wrong ... I love this forum. But let's be perfectly frank here. We're not the most scientific lot. Most of what you're reading is anecdotal at best and usually there's more assumptions and granny-lore than any real factual information.
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Old 05/25/08, 08:47 PM
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I have other more "scientific" information, but I also wanted to put a few opinions of other people, perhaps not all as quotes, but to give my teacher a perspective of what real people think.

I have one by a govenment official for the anti raw section. He said that "Drinking raw milk is like playing Russian Roulette with your health." He really belives that raw milk is that bad. I wanted to put his perspective in my paper, along with hard facts.

Dont get me wrong, if this was a science class, I wouldnt add any of this. But this is an English class. They want flowing language and feelings. Hard facts just dont cut it.

Good question though. Sorry I didnt mention that earlier.
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I'll check into it and get back to you ASAP.

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Old 05/26/08, 12:46 AM
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I have one by a govenment official for the anti raw section. He said that "Drinking raw milk is like playing Russian Roulette with your health." He really belives that raw milk is that bad. QUOTE]


I understand the concerns regarding milk comming from hormone/and any other injectable nastiness given to our bovine, but in all honesty, I would trust whole, fresh milk from "organically raised" cows on my breakfast table than any homonogized/pasturized crap that we are subjected to in the grocery stores.

The hormones alone that are given to cows to produce more milk are said to be causing our children, girls, to mature sooner than they should. Girls are starting their periods earler than they used to. I can't say thats a fact, but its an opinion I've read in many places which I highly agree with. Not to mention the cancers that are on the rise. Our bodies are maturing at a faster rate because of these said hormones which causes a host of problems our systems just cannot handle. Breast cancer? Don't get me started. Hormones are known for causing breast cancer among other female related cancers. And its in our milk.

Tell your professor about that.
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Old 05/26/08, 12:02 PM
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I just posted to the above thread, and it is fine with me that you use it.
That thread mentions others, you may want to see what they say as well.
I hope your paper goes well!
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Old 05/26/08, 02:48 PM
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thank you, jBlaze! I'll have to check back later about what Cliff/cjb says.

Oh, and Bee Rain (sweet name, by the way! ), I'm not going too in depth about the additives to the feed or the cows, it's just a paper on pasteurized and raw, who thinks what, and why. I did put a little in there though.

I totally agree about the hormones and other "nasties"; I'm a bit suspicious of them in milk. It just doesnt seem like something we should consume. Actually, Michigan just made it illegal to sell milk with hormones, I believe. "Hormone free" signs are all over Meijers (midwestern/great lakes area grocery store chain).

I dont really approve of what they are doing to the milk, but I do think it should be pasteurized unless its from your own animals. And thats what I'm trying to prove.

This is why I have my goats! I can do what I want with the milk I'm going to drink. I only pasteurize it for my out-of-town family, just in case.
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Old 05/26/08, 04:56 PM
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Yes, the Boss said that it is fine.

If you ever need anything like this in the future, please PM me. I read those several times per day but could have missed this posting, although I try to review most.

Good luck with your paper and welcome to HomesteadingTodayipedia.
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Old 05/26/08, 05:00 PM
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Oh, sorry. Didnt occur to me to pm!

Thank you all very much! I'm about done with the paper, and I'm turning it in tommorow. I'm going to add that in right now.

Wish me luck!
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Hope it goes well for you. I'm sure it will as it seems that you have done your research well. Here is me hoping you score top grade!
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