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05/14/08, 01:50 PM
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CL vaccination question
When I got my goats the woman said they had had CL vacination. Does anyone else Vaccinate for CL if so where do you get the Vaccine(My vet is clueless) the only place I could find online required me to have a goat with CL to collect pus from in order to get the vaccine(EWWW NO THANKS) The Neighbor woman I got the goats from Sadly has passed away so she is not available to ask.
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05/14/08, 02:31 PM
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I use the sheep vaccine (case bac).
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05/14/08, 03:48 PM
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IF, That is IF I remember correct the CL vaccine is not approved for goats yet.
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05/14/08, 04:41 PM
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Casebac is on indefinite backorder - I ordered some through my vet, and no idea when we're going to see it. Jeffer's says the same.
There used to be a company in Canada that made it - Glanvac - but they no longer do.
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IF, That is IF I remember correct the CL vaccine is not approved for goats yet.
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90% of what we use on goats is not approved for them.  Whatcha gonna do?
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05/14/08, 04:55 PM
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Get yourself on the boer lists. Chevon Talk and Sheepandgoatrancher on groupsyahoo.com you can find out how to sweep this all under the rug like the rest of them....ummmm manage CL  Vicki
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05/14/08, 08:02 PM
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Try western ranch supply, I had a friend order some the other day, I will check and see if they are on backorder or not.
No, it is not approved for goats.
How is vaccinating for something sweeping something under the rug?
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05/14/08, 08:29 PM
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How is vaccinating for something sweeping something under the rug?
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if a doe is vaccinated despite her beeing positive for this disease, will mask the true status of her, if she gets tested from future buyer. of course the breeder can say all goats are vaccinated and not tell the actual status of the herd.
to treat animals with abscess, like it is promoted on chevon talk just make me sick to my stomach.
but of course this is only an opinion from a dairy goat breeder
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05/15/08, 06:35 AM
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Well, yes, they can but how many people on here have purchased goat they have been told were clean and they weren't? Sounds like a dairy problem too.
Austrailia is cl free now due to vaccinating animals for it, wouldn't it be nice to say that about our country. There are vaccines available, so I use them.
Most tests now can tell if it is a positive from a vaccine or from cl itself.
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05/15/08, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by pookshollow
Casebac is on indefinite backorder - I ordered some through my vet, and no idea when we're going to see it. Jeffer's says the same.
There used to be a company in Canada that made it - Glanvac - but they no longer do.
90% of what we use on goats is not approved for them.  Whatcha gonna do?
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I DO KNOW THAT. Maybe I am thinking of CAE then. One of them will kill a goat if you give it.
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05/15/08, 01:42 PM
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there is no vaccine for cae.
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05/15/08, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Trey
Well, yes, they can but how many people on here have purchased goat they have been told were clean and they weren't? Sounds like a dairy problem too.
Austrailia is cl free now due to vaccinating animals for it, wouldn't it be nice to say that about our country. There are vaccines available, so I use them.
Most tests now can tell if it is a positive from a vaccine or from cl itself.
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wow! I didn't know that about australia. I guess that is what can happen when people "manage" a disease instead of promoting paranoia.
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05/15/08, 04:09 PM
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The status of tested animals are perhaps CL negative. It's like england promoting their herds are CAE free....the tested herds for showing are negative because they demand CAE free goats only show. This does not make england CAE free. I find it pretty hard to swallow that Austrailia or any other sheep rich country has done away with cornybacterium. Sounds good though. Vicki
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05/15/08, 08:49 PM
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I DO KNOW THAT. Maybe I am thinking of CAE then. One of them will kill a goat if you give it.
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See if you can find out what it is! It would be good to know.
The vet clinic is fully aware that I want the Casebac for goats. I was even talking about it to one vet last week, when he was here to geld a colt. I'm sure if there was a safety issue, they would have mentioned it - at least, I certainly hope so.
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01/19/09, 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pookshollow
Casebac is on indefinite backorder - I ordered some through my vet, and no idea when we're going to see it. Jeffer's says the same.
There used to be a company in Canada that made it - Glanvac - but they no longer do.
90% of what we use on goats is not approved for them.  Whatcha gonna do?
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I don't recall the name of the company, but they were bought by Pfizer. Glanvac is still made, though. I'll hit the phone, but when I called around before (about a year ago? maybe longer), I found a BC feed/farm supply that stocked it.
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