quest wormer

FD2N4P · #1 04/27/08, 06:02 PM

still new to the goat thing so don't ask me to do fecals yet!! but mine keep cpming back with no worms. i know that is nuts because i am starting to see it in their coats. i have tried safe guard, pancure sp? and ivermetin. i have been reading about quest. i am a little afraid, but don't know what to do.if i use it do i use it again in about 10 days. any info you can give would be apprecaited. ..............sue

RiverPines · #2 04/27/08, 06:07 PM

Lice can affect their coats as can diet!
Maybe they dont need worming if fecals are coming back ok.

FD2N4P · #3 04/27/08, 06:17 PM

right now they are on brush on 8 acres an sweetlix minerals. their coats looked like this one other time. they get curly and dull. i could use any of the wormers and it would be fine, but i am understanding that many of them do not work here in georgia now. vets don't know much about goats and feed stores aren't much better..........sue

topside1 · #4 04/27/08, 06:59 PM

Is it possible that the coats of your goats are just in a transitional phase from winter thickness to summer casual? I know all mine change in fur texture at this time of the year every year.

DQ · #5 04/27/08, 07:05 PM

what mineral are you feeding? if you only have a few goats on eight acres it wouldn't surprise me at all to have little to no worm problem. they get worms when they have to eat where they poop. if they have lots of browse far from the ground they won't get infected with worms.

topside1 · #6 04/27/08, 07:23 PM

DQ, makes a good point. If a goat is given enough land to forage off then worm buildup will be very minimal. In fact usually they won't generally eat in the heavly pooped on areas when given a choice. I really think you may be spending money and just spinning your wheels. I worm twice a year, once prior to breeding season (July) and once the day of their kidding (Jan, Feb). I use cydectin 1cc per 20 pounds orally. Have you been checking their eyes, gums, poop quality, energy levels etc? If you are new to goats then your pastures are more or less worm free. Did you have other animals running the pasture prior to purchasing goats? Sorry to sound so optimistic, but worms are not the always the root of all goat problems.

FD2N4P · #7 04/27/08, 07:25 PM

sweetlix minerals.......that could very well be.........the winter coat.........thanks

topside1 · #8 04/27/08, 07:29 PM

FD2n4p, read post # 6....just in case you missed it...ask questions, this is a forum with a wealth of knowledge....TJ

southerngurl · #9 04/27/08, 07:47 PM

They also may need more copper. Sweetlix is a red mineral (iron) and iron binds with copper.

Janine · #10 04/27/08, 07:50 PM

When I started giving my goats loose minerals, I saw a difference in their coats within a week! I sprinkle it like salt on their morning grain/BOSS.

hrslvrtrailridr · #11 04/27/08, 08:00 PM

After listening to my vet tell me about toxicity problems in smaller animals with the use of Quest I would avoid using it. It takes so very little to be over the margin. I have even heard the residue in the manure can be toxic to dogs that eat it.
This was all in the relation to using it in horses.

FD2N4P · #12 04/27/08, 08:07 PM

i am using sweetlix loose minerals, but i am having a copper problem and will be taking care of it within a the next two days. i have a fishtail on one goat and i see faded color on the others. thanks to this forum i have learned about copper. thier poop looks good eyes and gums look a little pale...if there is a better mineral let me know. topside, i'm find with all you ask, gives me ideas. the guy had horses here, but we do have a lot of wild life running around here......all kinds of poop!!! sue

Rowdy · #13 04/28/08, 12:39 PM

This is completely off topic, but on my first day from my job I don't get much sleep, and I read the title as "Guest Wormer." I got to thinking that might be a good way to keep the level of repeat visitors down!

Anyway,

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FD2N4P · #14 04/28/08, 01:54 PM

with the copper problem, what other minerals do any of you suggest, using the sweetlix right now. finding out we have a lot of iron in the water here.......sue-------------

TennesseeMama23 · #15 05/10/08, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by hrslvrtrailridr

After listening to my vet tell me about toxicity problems in smaller animals with the use of Quest I would avoid using it. It takes so very little to be over the margin. I have even heard the residue in the manure can be toxic to dogs that eat it.
This was all in the relation to using it in horses.

I know this is a little old, but I just read that the main ingredient is moxidectin, which is the same as cydectin, my favorite wormer.

FD2N4P · #16 05/10/08, 05:54 PM

thank you for your answer...............i am dealing with a copper problem thanks to the folks on here pointing that out. taking care of that right now....but for the future i will remember that....................sue