I just got stomped!!

mpete · #1 04/15/08, 12:11 PM

The buck that attacked my neighbor got me a bit ago... My doe had gotten loose from the milk stand and went running into an adjacent pen, well that buck slammed against the fence and got my hip, I grabbed a stick and tried to keep him off the fence, but he just backed up and charged the fence and managed to go over the fence and he lowered his head and rammedme again. I tried to get out of the way but he got my hip...again...knocing me down. He was hitting me with his legs and horns... I grabbed the pitch fork (dirty with chicken manure b/c I had just cleaned the hen house) and tried to hold him off... ofcourse I am shaking nervous... I managed to get the forks against his chest but I swear they just ----ed him off even more. I grabbed a garden hose and started squirting him and that cooled him off enough that I was able to grab his horns and work my way to his gate. This buck is NUTS. Now that the adrenilen is wearing off, I am starting to feel how sore I am... and I still have to take the doe back to her pen... and I leave in the morning to see my son graduate Marine boot camp in San Diego and I know that this 10 hour + drive is going to be a sore one...

Backfourty,MI. · #2 04/15/08, 12:16 PM

I am sure that was pretty scarey. Those full size bucks are so strong & they can really hurt you. He definately needs to go in the freezer before something bad happens to one of you or your other livestock. He does sound nuts! Glad your only sore & be careful!
Have a safe trip to see your son!

celticfarmgal · #3 04/15/08, 12:16 PM

sounds like it may be time for some buck burritos

Aeirios · #4 04/15/08, 12:58 PM

Freezer time

Or, though this may sound mean, a 2x4 right on the forehead the next time he charges, and don't be afraid to swing for a home run. It's a dominance issue, and about the only thing they will comprehend is getting the snot knocked out of them

CountryHaven · #5 04/15/08, 01:09 PM

I am so sorry. Do you have a gun? He'd be on the ground one way or the other if he were here. It's just good that you kept your wits about you during the attack and were able to grab whatever was available to get him off you.

bloogrssgrl · #6 04/15/08, 01:10 PM

Oh my gosh. I can imagine you are pretty sore right about now.

My big boer buck will get a little pushy once in a while, nothing like what yours does though. I get him by the head and tackle him right to the ground and hold him there until he says "Uncle". Then when I let him go he acts all sweet again. I guess maybe I'm a little crazy - I don't know of many other people willing to wrestle their goats...

What about pepper spray?

mpete · #7 04/15/08, 01:25 PM

thanks everyone..... he is that buck that I had that "aggression" post a day or so ago... I have a new respect for those horns, I had always considered them a poking issue, but he was using them quite well as a "squish the human" weapon...
My Boer buck is so gentle even in rutt that a little 4 year old girl would go walk up to him. He has never lowered his head to us and I am going to make sure that nobody will pat him on the head so he doesn't act crazy....
It's been awhile since it happened but I am still nervouse about going over in that area. The fence is 5ft tall and he still went over it, I am leaving in the morning, so I won't have to deal with him again until it's burger time... and I wanted to say thanks again to everyone here, just not about this post but about all of you being there when someone has a moment of need or just to vent....

Scrounger · #8 04/15/08, 02:10 PM

Dead Goat Walking.....

michiganfarmer · #9 04/15/08, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aeirios

Freezer time

Or, though this may sound mean, a 2x4 right on the forehead the next time he charges, and don't be afraid to swing for a home run. It's a dominance issue, and about the only thing they will comprehend is getting the snot knocked out of them

THats what Im talking about! Give it to 'im

Sweet Goats · #10 04/15/08, 02:27 PM

Glad to hear that you are ok. I had something like that happen years ago, and you can see the mad in their eyes when you are on the ground, and it is enough to scare the --ll out of you.
I do have to say that when my boy saw the pitchfork, he walked the other direction.

Try taking some Arnica Montana for that sore body that you are REALLY going to have. It is wonderful. They have 6c and 30c. The 6c is more what you want. It works all over the body, the 30c is more for a single area like when I band my boys.

Congratulations to you and you son. And please thank him for his service.

Bearfootfarm · #11 04/15/08, 02:36 PM

Quote:

a 2x4 right on the forehead the next time he charges,

You cant hit a goat on the HEAD hard enough to hurt him. And that would only make him more agressive. The easiest way to handle them is to sidestep just before he hits you , and push him over sideways.

Rockytopsis · #12 04/15/08, 02:53 PM

I am glad you are ok, and I agree, freezer camp for that goat.

nehimama · #13 04/15/08, 04:36 PM

How scary for you. Glad you're okay, if really sore! I've seen firsthand how a mean ram can be, but have not seen a buck this way - yet. I hope I never do. I only keep bucklings on my farm until their first (and last!) breeding season is over, then it's freezer camp for them.

NeHi

PETSNEGGS · #14 04/15/08, 04:47 PM

Wow, I am so happy you are okay... Sounds like you need a good rub down and he needs a good knock down! Be careful around him and hope you can enjoy your trip

Rowdy · #15 04/15/08, 06:28 PM

A spray bottle with slightly watered down vinegar sprayed at the eyes/face seems to do more than a 2x4 to the head from what I have seen.
Another trick is to grab him by the beard and pull hard enough that you can see the the skin pulling down from the bottom of his eyes. PUll him while you quickly get to a safe place (like through a fence, or whatever) And always leave yourself a path to escape while dealing with large bucks.

I very much agree that he needs to go to freezer camp.

Corky · #16 04/15/08, 07:31 PM

Hamburger!

Starsmom · #17 04/15/08, 07:46 PM

My herd sire is a little pushy, but that is his way of wanting attention. He is not doing it in an aggressive way, but sometimes I tire of it and I too wrestle him to the ground. He comes up acting like a puppy, dripping with sweetness. It really works...BUT you have to be sure you can take him down...if not you create more problems than you had before. And while he is down, you do not let him up until he becomes submissive, otherwise he will get up and then get mad and come at you again. You hold him down, especially if it is in front of his lady or other bucks. I did it once and all the little bucks came running and jumped all over him...you know kick him while he's down.

naturewoman · #18 04/15/08, 07:49 PM

I had a beautiful Kinder buck who was normally as sweet as could be, but he occasionally got aggressive. I used a hosea hose to cool him off. Never thought of carrying a water bottle (cause he was usually nice). But he had the horns, and he was the reason I decided I'd never have a goat with horns again. I'll probably never have a buck again either.

billooo2 · #19 04/15/08, 08:02 PM

A goat breeder (who has had goats for about 30 years) told me that they have only had one buck that got mean with them. He was producing outstanding babies, so they did not want to butcher him.

They bought a cattle prod and shocked him as he was charging. She said they shocked him twice, and he never charged again for the rest of his life!!

YuccaFlatsRanch · #20 04/15/08, 08:04 PM

Rather than vinegar in the water try a teaspoon of ammonia. He can't do much when he is gasping for breath. Works on dogs who chase cars too.

A bucket full of water in the face when they come at you when they are young helps train them to be nice. I just put a 300 lb ram sheep in the freezer who only came at you when your back was turned. If you had a bucket in your hand he would leave you completely alone - he learned when he was young. The worst I have now is my best Cal Red breeding ram and he just likes to lean on you, or scratch an itch by rubbing on you. He learned about the bucket too.