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Old 04/12/08, 01:29 PM
 
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Show Boer/Dairy and bucks

Anyone have pics of some show boers? How much should I expect to pay for a nice doe? Are there many shows for them? I like dairy but my mom wants me to get boers so I decided to look into them a little bit. Is it true that they would make more money than dairy goats? Im pretty sure its illegal to sell milk here so couldnt make extra from that. She also likes the idea that they are easier to care for without having to milk them,etc. How much would you pay for a nice reg dairy doeling or a reg RG? Is it worth breeding a unreg. half boer to a reg boer? About how much would the stud fee be for the boer/dairy?
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Old 04/12/08, 02:22 PM
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Lots of loaded questions. LOL

1st) Cost. A 'fullblood' (be careful in Boers. Purebreds are bred up percentages that have reached a certain level of blood to be considered 'purebred' but are NOT fullblood. 100% boers are fullblood, and have never been 'bred up') anyway: fullblood doe costs vary. You are saying 'show' doe... be prepared to spend MAJOR dollars in most cases. For a weaned doeling with show 'potential' you could spend anywhere from $500 to unheard of amounts, I've seen some listed at (and sold for) over $2500.00. For a proven show doe you are easily looking at $1500 or up to the sky is the limit on price.

For a good, nice confirmation, no major faults fullblood doe again there is great variation. I just bought a very lovely, well put together doe only 2 years old, proven mother, probably would even do well in the show ring, but she would take major work in the handling area, lol, for $250... take my word for it it was a steal. The more common average is 500-1500 ... but you can find deals, just be sure you know what you are looking for, and what to avoid. I'm afraid that might take a little longer to list but you can find out alot about what the standard is, and what is disqualifying, etc, at abga.org under their standards section.

Are there plenty of shows?--not as many as dairy, but there are. Depending on where you are in the country the number of shows will vary, but they seem to be increasing as well.

More money... just like in dairy, if you show, improve your stock, build a reputation, the costs for your animals as well as the demand for them go up, but I guess at THIS POINT IN TIME, I'd say, yeah it's possibly a higher money market to a degree.. that has a lot of danger in it too though, lol, any time you are deciding if an animal is a 'cash crop' you have to take into consideration that the market can fall apart at any time for various reasons.

Easier to care for... in terms of not having to spend the time milking yes.. in terms of as goats in their health care go... they are exactly the same. LOL

Breeding half/boer does and dairy does to a fullblood buck is definately worthwhile. I have a lot of diary does, and x-does that I breed to my buck. Their kids grow out really well thanks to the better milk supply of the diary does, and there are plenty of classes at the Boer goat shows for percentage does as well. (YOu can also find out the 'standard' for percentage does on the abga.org page).

Stud fees vary, but you'd really be best off buying yourself a nice fullblood buckling. (If you are interested in showing, and raising show stock, and replacement does, ALWAYS buy a registered fullblood buck--and of course, it stands to reason you should get the very best bloodlines and conformation that you can as well.)

Hope that answered some of your questions, at least from my point of view.
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Old 04/12/08, 09:59 PM
 
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Tami has really covered everything really well.

I would urge you to get good brood does, not just show stock. Does that carry and kid easily, are good mothers, and have lots and lots of milk for their kids. Buy from a reputable breeder. don't be afraid to ask questions. If you see a lot of bottle babies, figure that the does may be pretty, but can't feed their kids.

No CAE, No CL and whatever else is a concern in your area.

You can see some very pretty show quality animals at our website:
www.copper-penny-ranch.com We won repeatedly with the animals listed whether we were showing under USBGA or ABGA. Look for good structure and balance.

The USBGA has a good booklet that shows you varying attributes of a goat, what is best, good and a NO-NO. They also have an excellent section on teats. DO NOT take a doe with fish teats, just because the breeder offers you a "deal". Those fish teats (and other incorrect teat structure) will come back to haunt you.

The Boers are much much less work than the Dairy kids (if you are pulling the kids from your Dairy girls). they are cute, personable and lots of fun. Men seem to prefer Boers as well. I think they like the studliness of the Boers! And they really are wonderful eating!

Good luck, and have fun.
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Old 04/13/08, 11:49 AM
 
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There are a lot of Registered Boer Goat Sales in Indiana/Ohio/Illinois. There can be some good bargains to be had at those. These are not livestock auctions, but breeders getting together and putting on a big sale. There are those that are pricey, but if you are willing to wait, there are usually some that are more reasonably priced.

Since you want dairy and your mom wants boer, it might make sense to get a boer doe or 2 and a nubian doe or 2 to breed to a boer buck.

Look around, don't buy the first goat that you see. There are a lot of Boer people selling out and wanting to get rid of them fast with decent prices.

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Old 04/13/08, 01:16 PM
 
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Thanks for the help. We'd probably have a small herd anyway,not over 10 adults,but I like the idea of keeping mainly Boers,and then having 1-2 dairy's that I could show. I will probably look around for some of the breeders sales in fall,and see if I can find a couple nice does. Also how big do Boers get? Ive seen some that arent any bigger than my yearling boer cross doe,just heavier, and others that are huge,I assume thats from bloodlines,because I know the people who own the smaller ones ,and theirs arent registered.
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Old 04/13/08, 04:01 PM
 
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Another idea- spotted,and paints because I dont really like the traditionals since they mostly look the same. Are they more expensive? Can you show them,and if so are they in with traditionals or their own class? How much do wethers sell for,and does it take a long time to sell them?
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