Manna Pro Goat Minerals

Dreaming2Loudly · #1 02/01/08, 02:16 PM

Wondering what everyone thinks about these minerals.
My local feed store just started carrying them.
Heres a link to the analysis
http://www.mannapro.com/goat_mineralTD.html

cathleenc · #2 02/01/08, 02:42 PM

would love to hear what others think, too!

this is the only goat mineral that I can find locally. My goats did not like it/eat it - untill - I also bought a bag of kelp flakes and mix it 50/50 with them manna pro minerals. They now eat it just fine.

mustangsally17 · #3 02/01/08, 03:06 PM

seems to be a-lot of copper...but im new at this, soooooooo.....

DQ · #4 02/01/08, 03:57 PM

I just started using this mineral a few months ago. too soon to really tell if there is an improvement. I do have a doe that I purchased in the summer who I am relatively sure was copper deficient. she was completly white, and thin, and really just not thrifty looking. After a month she started developing markings eventually including a black dorsal stripe. the past few months, after starting the manna pro mineral, her "stripe" has grown significantly faster than in the previous months, this could be due though to finally reaching a peak in the copper in her system. The high copper level is exactly the determining factor in my decision to use it.

meleahbee · #5 02/01/08, 06:12 PM

i don't mean to hijack, but does a totally white color indicate a copper deficiency? I've never heard of this..... or is this just your goat in particular???

Fauna · #6 02/01/08, 09:37 PM

I had looked at the Manna Pro minerals, but decided to go with the Purina Goat Mineral instead as their copper content was a bit higher, either 1700 or 1750 ppm if I remember correctly. That was fairly important to me since I don't do any copper bolusing and so far they're looking great and showing no signs of copper deficiency with just the mineral alone.

Liese · #7 02/02/08, 04:58 AM

Don't know about the Manna Pro but I just got in new to me minerals from the feed mill with my order - Sweetlix - open the bag to find that it's red! Hmmm, if I remember correctly iron cancels out copper - have to make time to look that up again. This feed mill is also carrying kelp meal under the name Tesco - the seaweed is gathered off Novia Scotia & processed near Halifax. $50/50# was my cost. If you have an organics supplier look up Thorvin's - it's a little less if you don't have to ship. Like Cathleen I find they really like the mineral with kelp added.

LomahAcres · #8 02/02/08, 07:46 AM

Hmm, Manna pro minerals, I'll have to check if my feed store carries it. My mineral is only 1000 PPM in copper, trying to find something local with a higher level.

You wouldn't happen to know if this is a red mineral?

DQ · #9 02/02/08, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by meleahbee

i don't mean to hijack, but does a totally white color indicate a copper deficiency? I've never heard of this..... or is this just your goat in particular???

lack of copper can interfere with the abilityto produce pigmentation. just because a goat is white doesn't mean they are copper deficient. but theoretically a goat could be white because they were severly defficient in copper and unable to produce adequate pigmentation to fulfill there genetic color potential. maybe this link will work.

http://www.saanendoah.com/copper1.html

dkdairygoats · #10 02/02/08, 10:25 AM

I also use the Purina mineral, works well for me. I have to drive across town to get it but my goats like it and that's worth plenty to me.

ozark_jewels · #11 02/02/08, 11:25 AM

My mineral has 2,500 of copper, so I consider this mineral actually a little low. The salt is low which is good, they will eat more of the mineral.

I am not a fan of anything Purina for my herd. Usually high priced and too many fillers. Tried their mineral one year and my goats looked terrible on it. The salt content is way to high which means they will not get the other mineral amounts that they need. But salt is cheap=filler.
Purina Minerals:

Salt, (NaCI) Min 41.00 %
Salt, (NaCI) Max 45.00 %

They do have higher copper(1700-1800), but with that high salt content, they won't eat as much of the mineral, thus not getting as much copper.

Keep in mind that mineral needs will differ from area to area.

Dreaming2Loudly · #12 02/02/08, 12:44 PM

I have been using Purina but is almost half salt (expensive salt like Ozark says) and it is red. Just wasn't working well, we are very damp here in Oregon and Purnia clumps into more of a block than a loose mineral.
I did buy some Manna Pro yesterday and it is gray...the goats went crazy over it.
Also like Ozark Jewels said less salt more mineral intake is my goal with this one.
The copper is on the lower end but I copper bolous them so it works out.
We shall see....how long would you give to see if a new mineral is helping the herd?

moonspinner · #13 02/04/08, 08:03 AM

I also don't like the extreme salt content in Purina. Though some goaters justify that more salt means their goats drink more water.
I have not heard a single bad thing about Sweetlix; in fact, everyone seems to rave about its positive effects on their herd.

DQ · #14 02/04/08, 10:38 AM

I don't think the salt could be justified by them drinking more water unless you are "force feeding " the mineral. they consume the mineral based on their need for salt. if there was a loose mineral available where I buy my feed that had a higher copper content I'd go for it. for me the manna pro was a huge improvement over the 35ppm copper in the cattle mineral available there. when I ask for other minerals they just say "we have one made for sheep and goats" ugh. I finally pestered them enough to carry something just for goats and manna pro was it!
I wish I could get sweetlix magnum milker. that has a similar salt content but has 500ppm more copper.
edited due to mis reading osmething

HomesteadBaker · #15 02/04/08, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozark_jewels

My mineral has 2,500 of copper.....

What is your mineral, please?

Kitty

ozark_jewels · #16 02/05/08, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomesteadBaker

What is your mineral, please?

Kitty

I use the Right Now Onyx mineral made by Cargill. I use the unmedicated. Its a beef cow mineral.

CritterLover · #17 02/05/08, 12:45 PM

I was advised by someone on this list to use Bluebonnet Tech Master Livestock minerals which I just read have 4000ppm copper (I couldn't remember so I went and looked it up)

I had to get TSC to special order them ansd luckily someone else who buys much more feed than I also uses them so they started carrying them. It is NOT the cheapest on the market but, I also rehabilitate skinny horses for a rescue and the horses like them, too. Here's the bag label:

http://bluebonnetfeeds.com/pdfs/Tech...oncentrate.pdf

ozark_jewels · #18 02/05/08, 01:32 PM

Yes, Bluebonnet is supposed to be very good. If anyone from my area is interested, So-Mo in Springfield can order it for you.

Sweet Goats · #19 02/05/08, 04:11 PM

When I first started with goats I used Mana Pro, and I thought Wow they are not needing any mineral because they are not touching it. I thought I was going everything correct. Then someone offered them some mineral at a show and I thought I was going to have to buy her a new bag. They ate it like it was candy. So when I got home I tossed it out and got Sweetlix, and they go through it pretty good.