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Old 12/19/07, 06:15 PM
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Twyla the tank, Nibbles the Nubian and some of the other heavy bred girls!

I posted a picture of Twyla, our tank, back in early November. Here she is on 12/12/07. She is due Friday and she is one miserable goat! Her hooves still need work and they will receive attention after she is through kidding. She had better produce more than one kid this time! She delivered two kids and a blob in April of 2006 (when we brought she and the other Hope Joy Farm does home..they had been settled to our polled Nubian Rudy the Winter before). She then settled back three months post partem and delivered a single buck kid last Christmas. I had thought it was out of her own son, but after bringing him home to run clean-up..he is the spitting image of his daddy William (Boer/Saanen).
She is settled to Bo, the Boer buck. She was the first doe bred for this season.
Twyla the tank, Nibbles the Nubian and some of the other heavy bred girls! - Goats

All of the following pictures were taken at feeding time on 12/12/07. I clip each of the up close does in the cow barn for each feeding. This helps tame down those dam raised FFs and it ensures each gets all of her feed ration. The rest of the year it is a grunt and growl affair at feeding time.

Kitty was bred to Bo after Twyla was and is also due the 21st. She's our little dragon (no ears). Her real name is Squeek-ums but she is always Kitty to us. This will be her fourth freshening. I'm hoping for some little doelings to raise on prevention. Along with at least one buckling to leave on her! Kitty is at least 1/4 Pygmy, 1/4 LaMancha/Alpine and beyond that? Your guess is as good as mine. She may be linebred on the P/L/A or she could be 1/4 Boer..I just don't know...too many intact bucks running around that Fall!
Twyla the tank, Nibbles the Nubian and some of the other heavy bred girls! - Goats

Jane Doe (Thanks, KimM!) is due December 23rd. She is settled to our newest Nubian buck, Achilles. I am excited to see his first kids hit the ground! I had wanted to breed her to Rudy since Rudy's sire was spotted, but Achilles was the only Nubian buck here at the time...I drove her the half hour to where Rudy, Will, Boomer and JH were summering, but it was too early and Rudy was too much of a gentleman to force the issue. I wasn't driving her back the next day and so I had her bred to Achilles instead.
Twyla the tank, Nibbles the Nubian and some of the other heavy bred girls! - Goats

Nibbles...poor poor Nibbles, who has been moaning and singing since she was 3 months along is about the most miserable doe down there. She came from Hope Joy Farm and freshened for the first time as a 5 year old with twin bucks. She did not settle last Fall as she did not recover from Bottle Jaw as well as the others in that group. I am hoping for triplets but will accept twins. She is not near as wide as she is deeeep in the body. She is settled to Achilles as well. She is due on Christmas Eve. She will be a second freshening 7 year old...*sigh* Yes, she is still a bit thin over the top. She was brought up early for extra attention.
Twyla the tank, Nibbles the Nubian and some of the other heavy bred girls! - Goats

Kait, the oldest doe on the farm, also came from Hope Joy Farm. She will be ten this coming year. She had not been bred for 4 years plus when we brought her home. She did not settle to Rudy that first Winter. Rudy was a youngun and I guess not impressive enough. She did deliver a single, perfect, polled Nubian doeling out of Rudy this past year. She is settled to Achilles and is due December 27th. A live healthy kid is all we ask of her.
Twyla the tank, Nibbles the Nubian and some of the other heavy bred girls! - Goats

Then we get into the oopsie breedings! Achilles and Rocky (the dud) were bad boys! I was at a family reunion in MI.
Achilles and Rocky kept getting with the herd. Achilles is our younger Nubian buck and Rocky is our Boer dud.
The last four-five breedings were not intended.
May is due December 29th with her third freshening. I don't have a picture of her. She is a black Nubian and isn't very big. I'm not getting my quads out of her. She is a quad herself.
The next four were bred the day I returned home. I went down and discovered the two boys in the doe pen.
Star Baby is due with her second freshening on the 31st. Her first was a nightmare. I was away in KS last March (nobody was supposed to be due until a week after I returned home!). She went into labor and for the first time in ten years of kidding the vet had to be called in. The buck kid was upside down and backwards. They ended up removing his head to get him out and the doeling that followed was already dead. I'm only slightly concerned but not much since I will be here this year and she will get her BoSe shot!

Lil' Bunny Foo Foo will be a coming 2 year old FF. She is due December 31st to Achilles. The kids will be almost 3/4 dairy...not really the direction we were heading!
Twyla the tank, Nibbles the Nubian and some of the other heavy bred girls! - Goats

Liza will be a coming 2 year old FF as well...also due to Achilles on December 31st. She is 1/2 Boer, 1/2 Alpine. Nice udder developing on her.
Twyla the tank, Nibbles the Nubian and some of the other heavy bred girls! - Goats

There are two others does possibly due the end of this month or else setteld to the January due dates I have down. Moondust-P is most likely due to Achilles on the 31st though. Grrr! She is the polled daughter out of Twyla and Rudy so the kids will be 3/4 Nubian...1/4 Boer...

This covers the does due the end of this month...There are about 20+ due in January, three in February, and the another 15-20 due in March and April....lol
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Old 12/19/07, 06:53 PM
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Good luck Roseanna! I am waiting for our Boer kids and hoping they come out like the third doe or just to look like the Boer and not Nubian! I wanna sell all the kids when they come out ok??
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Old 12/19/07, 06:55 PM
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Good Gosh, Roseanna! HUGE and MISERABLE is what I see for sure! My kidding season doesn't start til mid-Feb and I am already feeling like I am out of time. I only (only?) have 12 kidding and just today was thinking I just wanted to milk 5 of those as I hand milk, and they are heavy milkers. One of the 12 is Boer so I don't have to milk her. So that leaves 6 to sell, I think. Six I LOVE and have to part with!

Of course, there will be kids i want to keep too so the numbers will be back up all too soon

But I will sure be thinking of you running in and out of the barn all winter long
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Old 12/19/07, 06:58 PM
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But I will sure be thinking of you running in and out of the barn all winter long

I think it would be fun to work with someone that kids 70+ does! I wouldn't want it to be me, but I would love to work for them! I tried to get a job with lambing, but I diddn't want to sit up from 10 pm - 6 am!
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Old 12/19/07, 07:15 PM
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Poor Nibbles! Poor Twyla! Poor Kitty! They all look so miserable. I need to get out and get a pic tomorrow of Lalaith. She's just begun to grunt and groan today. She's looking awfully tank-ish.

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Nice nice Roseanna! Nice seeing such well cared for goats. Vicki
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WOw - those ladies are huge! Am I correct in seeing all the ladies have thier own feeding area? I would love to be able to do my small herd like that........
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Old 12/19/07, 08:47 PM
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I can't wait to see Jane's kids as well as the rest of your kids! Janie looks super! It looks like Nibbles has 3 or 4 in there. Let me know if you need someone to bottle raise any! (Like I need anymore) lol!
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Old 12/19/07, 08:59 PM
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Thanks guys! I feel so bad for those does right now. The first three due are really yucking it up. Jane has *finally* started uddering up today! I wouldn't believe some of them are bred except I have bumped the kids in them. It took forever to find anything in Twyla...there is soo much space in that gut! That's about what she looked like before delivering her singleton last year.


Each doe has their own feeding area. I clip everyone with Carinbingers (sp?) to their own spot before going and getting their feed pans ready. When possible each doe has her own designated feed pan as well. Right now I am clipping and feeding 18...I am at my space limit already. Any more does and they start being able to stretch their skinny little necks out and steal their neighbor's pan! When we add more I will start feeding them in rotations. Bringing in and clipping one group and then doing another. At some point these does that will be kidding soon (mostly the Boer influenced does) will get kicked out to the Corn Crib shed where they will go back to grab and growl set up through a cattle panel with a my side of the fence feeder. Twyla can get her horns through a cattle panel and back out with quite a bit of ease. Thank goodness!
As dad keeps pointing out and reminding me...at some point I need to just accept the fact I can't do that all the time and simply feed in groups according to wether they are vaccuums as is the case with Milky Way, or slow, slow eaters like Kitty. With 50+ I can't be as particular....lol
I just like to be able to feed to each doe at least two weeks prior to kidding and then at least one month post kidding...two months is preferred.
The nice thing is that the does will generally go and stand next to their clips as time goes by. They learn their spot and wait there come feeding time. I am still having to chase Liza and FooFoo a bit...and moreso the two FFs and the crazy third freshener (who has never really tamed down) who I brought up yesterday. Though the two year old first freseheners are getting the routine down much more quickly than my yearling FFs tend to.

Some of these does have come a long way this year. Nibbles had not only the worm issues last year but was one of the does that was worse off with the Copper issues. Since we have gotten the Copper issues under control for the most part the does are just thriving.

I am looking at milking a larger number of does this year just to keep their udders healthy. I'm hoping to pull all the doelings for prevention and sell most of them (hint, hint). That and I need to break to milk the does I plan to sell as family milkers this year. It should be interesting to say the least.
I am ready I think though...just got a box of 50 lambar nipples and 60 ID Bands in the mail today! The playpen in the living room is prepared...I have colostrum ready in the freezer and my kidding towels are at the barn waiting.
I think we are planning on storing the milk in trash cans outside to feed to the numerous beef cross calves we expecting this Spring. It will keep easily until March and then we need to figure out what we are doing...that is after I freeze a bunch for soap making...


Christy, Didn't Lalaith have quads last year?

Alex, I considered working for the only goat dairy left in Ohio a couple of years back. She has Saanens and kids out quite a few head at once. We've never kidded out more than 32 in one year, so this should be interesting. I am fairly confident though. Our does have little trouble kidding. They are well exercised and with dad and I having to be in the barn anyways we catch things pretty early on.

Diane,
I don't do much running in and out of the barn in the winter...I just spend most of each day in the barn...lol It is way too windy and cold on our hilltop to do much back and forth. Maybe three or four times will I go from house to barn..with a trip to the Sheep Shed area to take care of the other 50+ goats and the three heifers and a bull down there...which means hauling 40 gallons of hot water at times...lol
Brrr.....I don't want winter to come again...lol

Thank Vicki, I appreciate the kind words. The entire herd is still not exactly where I want it healthwise but we are making steps everyday.
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Old 12/19/07, 09:01 PM
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Kim,
You can come see Jane's kids as soon as she delivers hem if you want...lol

Actually, I am hoping you'll be interested in learning to disbud on this group of kids. That way you can visit with Jane and her kid(s). She better have twins in there! lol. One boy and one girl...the girl for you, of course...lol
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Kim,
You can come see Jane's kids as soon as she delivers hem if you want...lol

Actually, I am hoping you'll be interested in learning to disbud on this group of kids. That way you can visit with Jane and her kid(s). She better have twins in there! lol. One boy and one girl...the girl for you, of course...lol

Yes, I am interested in learning to disbud, whenever you're ready for me. Can Adam (the goat artist) come along too?
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Old 12/20/07, 03:45 PM
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Sure Adam can come if the timing works for him. The more the merrier. Just realize I will likely be frazzled... lol

I cannot believe Twyla is still holding out on me......I'm only going down two or three times a day right now. I was away from home from 7AM-1:30PM...she still didn't do anything!
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