Just got a phone call for goats - Must read!

KimM · #1 12/16/07, 09:29 PM

I got a phone call just a while ago. It was one of those relay operators for the deaf. I've had them call before so I'm a little familiar with the way that works. They said they wanted a goat for their son as a gift and wanted to know what I had for sale and to please email them back right away. Well I'm thinking, if they have my number and know I have goats for sale, why didn't they just email me in the first place after looking at my sales page? But I replied that I would email them right away and I did. Well, here's the email from me with their reply. I left the name that they used so you can all be aware.

(What I sent)

Hello,
All the goats I have for sale are on my webpage with pictures and prices. Do you know which ones you are interested?
You are welcome to come see them all if you'd like.
I am on DSL and I'm connected to the internet almost all the time. I also check my email several times a day so you can email me with any questions and you can be sure to get an answer very soon.
So let me know which ones you like and thank you for calling!
Kim Miller

www.2ksboergoats.com/4sale.html

(Their reply)

----- Original Message -----
From: barbara sheldon
To: KMiller
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 10:01 PM
Subject: Goats confirmation

gooday,
thanks for your respond. it was due to my hearing impaired that lead to the relay call
.am okay with the condition of the goat i want u to know that the site u gave not open and i want the done fast and i want u to get me the price of the goat u have now so i can get back with u cos i want it for my son as a gift and concerning the payment i can only send you a cheque and i would need the following details for the cheque to get to you fast....here is the information needed for the cheque to get you soon........

your full name.......

your contact address......

your phone number.......

last price........

pls get back to me with the information so that the cheque can be sent out to you as soon as possible....concerning the shipping of the one goat i have my shipping company that will come for the pick up at your location dont worry about the shipment i will take care of that and the cheque it will be overdraft after you received the cheque you deduct the money that acquires to u and you will help me to send the remaining balance to my shipping company through western union out let for the pick up the one goat at your location........

.n.b.... i will give you extra $50.00 to reserve KMiller

Those scammers have stooped to a new low unless it's actually a deaf scammer.

The phone number that showed on my caller ID was 216-416-0033, This is the Cleveland, Ohio area.

And notice the goat they want to reserve...KMiller - that's ME! Ma-a-a-aaa!

Jyllie63 · #2 12/16/07, 09:34 PM

Oh my goodness....thanks for posting that Kim! That is scary and sad what a scammer will stoop to.

KimM · #3 12/16/07, 09:38 PM

I emailed them back:
I'm sorry but I won't sell a goat to anyone who has not seen them first. And I need to know where you live so I know that the goat will have a proper home. Please send me your address and a picture of where the goat will be living.
Thank you

Haven't heard back from them. I wonder why??

deafgoatlady · #4 12/16/07, 09:58 PM

WOW. I am deaf here. It shouldnt be used the relay call at ALL. It is not fair and it is not right. It made me soo mad. Good thing u figured out it is scammer. OH MY GOSH!!! It is not right.. ARGH!!!

KimM · #5 12/16/07, 10:09 PM

I know! I was sure that you wouldn't appreciate it. I'm just wondering how they went about doing this using a Cleveland (possibly) service. Is there any way to report them?

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Originally Posted by deafgoatlady

WOW. I am deaf here. It shouldnt be used the relay call at ALL. It is not fair and it is not right. It made me soo mad. Good thing u figured out it is scammer. OH MY GOSH!!! It is not right.. ARGH!!!

cowgirlracer · #6 12/16/07, 10:09 PM

Good Catch. I had similar scammers when I had a litter of puppies advertized last year. One thing that I thought was strange is that I said in my ad that I will not ship ~ they said they would have their shipping company contact me. But this is beyond low~geesh!!!!

Anne

deafgoatlady · #7 12/16/07, 10:13 PM

Well There is a way u can try this. Call the Relay Service and ask them for I cant think of it what it is called.. OHH. I dont remember.. Just call the relay service and ask them to let u to talk someone top of them the workers. U know what I mean.. Talk to them and find out what should u do. Becuz it is NOT right at alll...

collegeboundgal · #8 12/16/07, 10:14 PM

well, it's really not that hard to spot these scams. good for a laugh though. I do wish that they would email you back. I think I would play with their heads for a little longer. but, I'm sick and in the winter months, a little board. lol

-Melissa

Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians · #9 12/16/07, 10:58 PM

Other than the obvious scam of the overdraft part, and the deaf part is just too weird. Something similar happened on Nubian Talk. We all got, likely via ADGA, similar emails. The guy wasn't deaf but he was from Croacia and his emails were strange like the one above because it was from an email program that turned his language into English. His shipper information was actually his son who spoke English and picked up the doe. He has now purchased 3 other milkers from me in the past 3 years and makes cheese in New York. I deal effeciently with folks who contact me, I ask for full payment for the doe via paypal. Unless picked up at the farm all shipping costs are the responsiblity of the purchaser. Are you sure the call wasn't because of a language barrier and not that they were deaf? Also I did recieve via Paypal because he paid with a credit card, an over amount to pay for room and board of the goat, which I refunded part of an gave to the son when he picked up the does. So although this person is likely scamming you, remember that not all people do business exactly like we do. I now deal directly with the mans son, who has 2 more milkers on deposit for my April kiddings. Vicki

KimM · #10 12/16/07, 11:16 PM

I'm willing to work with anyone but this is too obvious.
I do prefer to do the old "cash n carry" kind of sales.

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Originally Posted by Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians

Other than the obvious scam of the overdraft part, and the deaf part is just too weird. Something similar happened on Nubian Talk. We all got, likely via ADGA, similar emails. The guy wasn't deaf but he was from Croacia and his emails were strange like the one above because it was from an email program that turned his language into English. His shipper information was actually his son who spoke English and picked up the doe. He has now purchased 3 other milkers from me in the past 3 years and makes cheese in New York. I deal effeciently with folks who contact me, I ask for full payment for the doe via paypal. Unless picked up at the farm all shipping costs are the responsiblity of the purchaser. Are you sure the call wasn't because of a language barrier and not that they were deaf? Also I did recieve via Paypal because he paid with a credit card, an over amount to pay for room and board of the goat, which I refunded part of an gave to the son when he picked up the does. So although this person is likely scamming you, remember that not all people do business exactly like we do. I now deal directly with the mans son, who has 2 more milkers on deposit for my April kiddings. Vicki

SherrieC · #11 12/16/07, 11:30 PM

It has become very common recently for people to go the route of Deaf person scams, so you can't call and talk to them I guess , but with them using a relay system thats' a new one on me.

Oldntimes · #12 12/17/07, 04:19 AM

I get at leat three of these a year. They are very obvious with the wording these people use. My DH also got one for a truck he has for sale. The first E-mail sounded norma couple odd things but not to bad, but then the reply well... That was so obvious it was a scam.

Yes when talking with potential buyer you can get all the info you need to make a good decision. I am sure there are some people out tere that fall for tese scams......

oberhaslikid · #13 12/17/07, 04:47 AM

The same thing happened to us at work.Same way they were trying to buy scads of inkjets.With stolen credit cards.

moonspinner · #14 12/17/07, 10:56 AM

Watch out for any correspondance that sounds like English is a second language, spelling is really off, and focuses on sending/wiring you a check. And does not ask specific questions on your stock.

KimM · #15 12/17/07, 11:38 AM

I just called that number to try and talk to someone in management but guess what? It isn't a working number!! Imagine that.

Starsmom · #16 12/17/07, 05:11 PM

I can't find it now, but read a website where the lady actually played along with the scammer up to the point of their sending her the check. She then claimed she didn't receive it, got them all upset as it was sent overnight. Then she gave them a hard time regarding cashing it, forgot to go to the bank, was sick..got drunk the night before...They were threatening her with prosecution...LOL...she finally let them in on the fact she had SCAMMED them. The phone (she gave them her cell number to call her) calls she received, the overnight FedEx, etc...she figured they spent around $150 or more on their failed scam.

HazyDay · #17 12/17/07, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Starsmom

I can't find it now, but read a website where the lady actually played along with the scammer up to the point of their sending her the check. She then claimed she didn't receive it, got them all upset as it was sent overnight. Then she gave them a hard time regarding cashing it, forgot to go to the bank, was sick..got drunk the night before...They were threatening her with prosecution...LOL...she finally let them in on the fact she had SCAMMED them. The phone (she gave them her cell number to call her) calls she received, the overnight FedEx, etc...she figured they spent around $150 or more on their failed scam.

That sounds like fun!

I tired to play along with these scams that get my email. But when they wanna know all this info I make up half of it and I can't believe they fell for "What is your Name? Jesus." They then said "Jesus we need your full adress." I told them Heaven! I think then they thought about it and stopped emailing me!

SDjulieinSC · #18 12/18/07, 07:39 AM

The same thing happend over the summer to my neighbor. She had placed an add selling maltese pups in the local paper. I believe it took a few conversations for them to figure out something was fishy. Once they did they decided to see how far they could get things to progress in an attempt to bust them. I think that they received a check. Of course they told the "customer" (who was getting quite nasty by this point) that they had to wait for the check to clear before sending the pup, as they had guessed, the check was no good. They gave all of the information to the police, and were told that although it was a pretty big deal because it involved the US mail and the telephone, not to hold their breath on catching them.
I haven't heard her mention anything about it lately, I may need to see what the outcome was.
We are in Spartanburg SC.

cayenne47 · #19 12/18/07, 08:45 AM

My mom got one about some one needing to re-home their dog as they were moving overseas. Had pictures and everything. But same thing, they wanted her to send money to them to ship the dog.

TedH71 · #20 12/18/07, 01:51 PM

I'm deaf myself and do use the relay system. I prefer email since it's more direct. Only problem that I keep running into is that my fiancee keeps saying no to some of my want-to-buy purchases...like a van that's for sale at a good price a hour or two from here!