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12/10/07, 04:22 PM
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Sick goat
He is a registered Boer, daddy goat. Presently he is losing weight at a very fast pace, the hollow just ahead of his rear hips are very pronounced. The back end indicates a very wet stool and is a bit pasty. No diet changes or new herd members. No changes for the others.
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12/10/07, 04:25 PM
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How old is he?
When was he last wormed, what with?
What is his diet?
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12/10/07, 07:07 PM
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Have you checked the color of his eyelids? Done a fecal?
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12/10/07, 07:15 PM
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could be so many things.
parasite overload, johnes or cl only to name a view.
i would bring a fecal sample to your vet for check up. probios and vit b sq to support him until he gets better. what is his temperature? is he still eating and drinking?
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12/11/07, 01:53 AM
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He is eating and drinking with no changes that are visible, its just the visual weight loss and messy rear that has my attention right now.
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12/11/07, 06:22 AM
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Have you tried giving him pepto bismol to dry his stools? It won't solve the problem. I don't know if goats get into a cycle where they continue to have diareaha after the origninal problem is gone or not.
Have you pulled everything but hay from his diet? Does he have baking soda and probiotics?
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12/11/07, 06:28 AM
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A couple things I would add to the above: Is he in rut? A lot of bucks lose weight and condition in full rut - he may need more calories, etc. The Vitamin B will keep his appetite up. I might also use nutridrench.
Has your weather changed? Some of our goats get softer stools when they eat wet grass out in the field, after rains.
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12/11/07, 07:12 AM
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Mitch, the big issue is worms. I know you are caretaker for these goats for an absentee owner who doesn't give you much support.
Have they been wormed? With what? When?
That's the most likely problem.
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12/11/07, 08:04 AM
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Without info on worming can't be of much help. A fecal is the place to start asap. Could be cocci too.
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12/11/07, 08:25 AM
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The pen area could be contaminated with coccidia. it can stay alive in the soil for 20 years. If he eats enough stuff off the ground, he is ingesting it. It makes adults sick, can kill newborns in days. There is a feed supplement that guards against it. Maybe from Iron Horse in Pa??? Been a while since we had goats. If you have any dry old leaves around, NOT dusty or MUSTY, our vet recommended that as a good sickbed diet. Good luck. Sue
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12/11/07, 12:59 PM
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I will be picking up wormer today, as soon as the feed store card is returned - recharged. The neglect is the reason the last tender exited this situation.
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12/11/07, 07:02 PM
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wormer is cheap...horse paste ivermectin on a piece of bread at double the goat live wt and repeated in 10 days,probiotic paste on same bread. worm every 3 months or more often on confinement.
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12/11/07, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by mpillow
wormer is cheap...horse paste ivermectin on a piece of bread at double the goat live wt and repeated in 10 days,probiotic paste on same bread. worm every 3 months or more often on confinement.
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Why not just squirt it in their mouth same as a horse?
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12/12/07, 05:01 AM
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Yup, squirt it. Stand over the goat's shoulders, put left hand under chin, squeeze mouth open with left hand fingers. Squirt med in with right.
Mine would spit out bread with icky meds on it. 
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12/12/07, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Rose
Yup, squirt it. Stand over the goat's shoulders, put left hand under chin, squeeze mouth open with left hand fingers. Squirt med in with right.
Mine would spit out bread with icky meds on it. |
I've had just the opposite experience....mine never refuse bread or cracker...the probiotics is apple smelling so they like it 
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12/12/07, 08:24 AM
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I've got one goat who turns up her nose at an oatmeal cookie.
Yesterday I de-wormed them, and two thought it was great. One slung her head back and forth with her mouth open, simply horrified at the taste. I had as much goat med on me as went down her goozle, I think. 
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When mine see the tube (Regardless of what is in it) mouths open and fighting for it. Sounds like the bucks are in rut. My herd sire has really gotten thin this year. Feeding double to triple normal rations to keep weight up. Finally this past few weeks started putting weight on. The 3 year old lost alot, the 2 year old got sorta thin, but not too noticeable and the 1 year old is nice and plump. I think alot depends on the animal himself...rut is really hard on their systems, definitely need extra calories during this time.
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