Help Now.. My Buck Is Not So Good...

[deafgoatlady]

Help... I am at MIL house.. Becuz my buck is at MIL's house for breeding thing.. Well he is here for 2 days right now. He hasnt ate.. But He is frothy and slimy coming out of his mouth... I gave him vit b complex and baking soda.... I dont have temp.. Sorry.. But his eyes look red.. But his eyes look sulking and kinda puffy.. He been throwing up too.. THey gave him the grain today and he just threw them up... I need ur help now.. I think it is oak leaves toxin.. I just only see leaves everywhere in the pen.. The buck is sooo LONELY... He is used to be with my girls all the time and sleeps with them. And he is here all by himself.. I need to know what is ACTIVATED CHAR... I dont have them on my hand. But it is freezing outside and it is slick outside.. I am stuck... I need ur help.. I only have grill char. thing.. HELP.. Thanks..

[cseger1]

About actiivated charcoal - the other names are listed. You may be able to find at a pharmacy - are you near one? I hope he pulls through.

What is it?
Activated Charcoal is a supplement used when accidental poisonings have occurred. The charcoal helps absorb the poison and carry it out of the body. It is also used to treat high cholesterol, diarrhea, upset stomach, and gas.

Other names for Activated Charcoal include: Active Carbon, Adsorbent Charcoal, Carbo Activatus, Carbon Active, Carbon Attivo, Decolorising Charcoal, and Medicinal Charcoal.

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drugs/altme...&contentId=363

[deafgoatlady]

Thanks. I finally got the fishtank fliter.. It is act. char.. How can I do this? Should I crush it up and should I add water ??? To make it runny ??? Or what? So I can give it to him now... Let me know asap...

[needstoknowmore]

fish tank charcoal or barbeque charcoal that is not self lighting will work. Be real carefull with the barbeque stuff and make sure it doesn't have lighter fluid or what ever they put on there to make it burn, if your not sure don't use it. If you can get either of those crush is up and get it in him. It sure sounds like some type of poisen.
Other than that let him vomit, don't try to stop it. some with diarhea if he gets it. let him do it. Just keep him hydrated. He needs to get the toxins out of him.

[needstoknowmore]

yes crush it up, mix it with just enough water to get it down him!!!!

[deafgoatlady]

okay??? He dont have diheriea...;

[needstoknowmore]

and give it to him now!!! dont' worry about diarhea until/if it happens,

[deafgoatlady]

okay we are doing it but how much should we give him ????

[needstoknowmore]

that I'm not sure. I would go with say 1/4 to 1/2 cup
I've got a tube of some I will try to see if I can do any math to convert the amounts

[needstoknowmore]

now my tube is some type of charcoal concoction. and it says 25 to 50 ml/cc for aniamls weighing 35 to 100 lbs.
I wish I could tell you an exact amount. But I wouldn't worry about giving him to much

[deafgoatlady]

Okay. Well I already gave him Vit B complex shot and baking soda but it was like an hour before I gave him char. SO I hope he makes it thru the nite. Hey do u think it is acidois or toxin from eating ???? I cant figure out what it is... I am frustrated... Becuz MIL just got him two days ago from my house. He was fine this morning and all of sudden he acts sooo sickly and everything.. (sigh)..

[fcnubian]

I hope he pulls through. Goodluck with him.

[Tadpole]

I was told if you don't have the charcol pill. You get the black charcol off some old wood in your fireplace or in the yard where you have built a fire. Just scrape off about 2 Tablespoons(powder) off of stick on a paper towel and then just open his mouth and put it in. He will take it if you put it for enough back in the mouth. Wish you luck an God Bless.

[moonspinner]

It sure does sound like he ingested some toxin. I hope he made it through the night.

[fishhead]

I didn't see that he got any baking soda. That would help neutralize any tannic acid from the oak leaves or if his gut is generating acid.

I can't say for sure but I would think charcoal would be pretty safe and hard to overdose. It should just pass through and out the other end.

Do you have any pepto bismol? If so or another similar product I would give him some of that too to soothe his gut and prevent the acid from damaging it.

Good luck!

[fishhead]

Is he bloating? I would try walking him if he is.

Probiotics or yogurt would be a good thing to try too.

[Sweet Goats]

Well, How is he doing? Please give us a update.

Fishhead, yes she said he had the baking soda.

We bought a tube of charcoal stuff for poisoning. We have never had to use it but I have it just in case. My daughter did a Demo for her 4H and she learned a lot about all the things that are Toxic for goats, so she said we better have it on hand.

[BlueHeronFarm]

After this thread we are getting some now, too. You just never know what they might get into, despite your best efforts to keep them safe. I hope he's OK.

[deafgoatlady]

OK today he is shivering and still drooling or whatever and we gave him baking soda and charcoal and vit B complex he will not drink water and looks weak

[fishhead]

Can you put a blanket on him?

Maybe try some warm water flavored with a bit of molasses to warm him up.

Have you tried a pinch test on his skin to see if it goes back? If it doesn't that will tell you if he's dehydrated.