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Old 11/15/07, 10:29 AM
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Mini Goats

I was out the other day and saw for the first time a small goat. Actually I saw three at different places around the same area. I would like one to have as a pet. A lady on the peoples exchange radio show has a dwarf female but said it is not tame but a good milker? Any help here would be much obliged.
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Old 11/15/07, 11:31 AM
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What did you want to know about them? We have pygmy goats and
love them! They are great pets. We haven't tried milking them. We raise the babies and sell them. Ours are all very tame.

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Old 11/15/07, 12:12 PM
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I think that you'll find that most breeders who care about their animals won't sell dairy goats for pets. Too many people see them, the 'aww' factor kicks in, and they buy without knowing how to take care of them. Then later the breeder finds out that the animal was neglected or died because of the ignorance of the new owner.

If you want to keep goats, learn something about them first -- this forum is a good starting point, but you'd do well to get a couple of books on goats and read them through a few times. Then you'll have a better idea of what to ask when you do come on here! It sounds like you would like to have milk from your goats, so that makes you higher on the scale of potential owners (at least in my book) than someone who is just looking for a pet. People who expect to get some work (milk production is considered work) from their animals are more likely to take good care of them.

As far as 'small' goats for milk, what you saw may have been Nigerian Dwarfs, and people do milk them (Pygmies are primarily a meat goat and would be difficult, though not impossible, to milk, because of the size of their teats). They are often pretty low to the ground, though. If you are serious about getting a supply of milk but want a smaller animal I'd suggest either a mini (cross of a Nigerian Dwarf with one of the larger dairy breeds) or a Kinder (cross of a Pygmy with a Nubian). They are usually going to be easier to get a milk pail under than a Nigerian, but are a little smaller and easier to handle than the large breeds. The large breeds really aren't that big, though, so you should visit some breeders and see their animals before you decide on what you want. Or go to a large 4-H fair -- I like to watch the judging at a 4-H show, because the judges don't just hand out ribbons, they tell you what was good and bad about each animal. You can learn a lot about goat conformation by watching.

Kathleen

ETA: just re-read your original post, and noted the comment about the goat not being tame. She was probably dam-raised, that is, nursed by her mother, and not handled much. Though I have had a couple of dam-raised kids that WERE handled a lot and were still wilder than march hares. (The doe kid eventually settled down when I started milking her.) That was a skittish line, though. Anyway, dairy kids are usually bottle-raised, and bottle-raised kids are very friendly. Dam-raised kids can sometimes, depending on the genetics of the parents, be made friendly by lots of handling, but if you start with skittish parents the kids will likely stay skittish.

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I have some bigger dairy goats and some smaller ones. The smaller ones that I have are Mini Nubians. I love the mini Nubians. Although, I have 2cnd and 1st Generation Mini's, they are small but not real small (they are goats that come from Nubain and Nigerian lines). The girls put out a good amount of milk and it's rich. Out of all my livestock my goats are one that I don't ever want to be without.

Great milk and really good pets. My daughter walks the one goat when the weather is good. Very friendly.

I am not sure where you are located but I could share the web address of the lady I bought my goats from on here. (I myself am keeping all my goats and the babies are going to family members next year.)

http://www.freewebs.com/pinepodfarm

Good luck and your goat search.

Dora Renee' Wilkerson
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Here is a goat site with TONS of good information on it. I just love this site.
http://fiascofarm.com/goats/index.htm
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Old 11/22/07, 08:01 AM
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Thanks folks for the input. I am off to buy some books on goats and to the extention office.
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If a pet is all you're after I would look into a pygmy or ND wether. A bottle fed kid would pretty much ensure a people-oriented goat, though many dam-raised goats can be pets as well. And they need a buddy so you'll have to invest in two goats. Be sure to buy from a responsible farm that is CAE neg and no abcesses.
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Old 11/22/07, 01:21 PM
 
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Nigerian Dwarf goats can be decent milkers. Minis are probably better but it does depend on the individual goat's genetics.
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Old 11/22/07, 09:30 PM
 
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I have recently purchased 6 Nigerian Dwarf dairy goats with which to build my herd. I LOVE them. I have 3 does and 3 bucks. 1 doe is dry and is currently in a breeding pen with one of my bucks. The other two does are in milk. The two lactating give plenty of milk but have the capability (as shown by their past lactations or their dams' lactations) to give plenty more (up to double what they give now) next time they freshen. NONE were bottle fed (they were all dam-raised) and only one is timid by nature. They are all handled regularly and have a daily routine and although this one timid goat is coming along, her personality is just different from the others (who can't stay out of my face lol). It is really an independent goat thing as much as it is handling and genetics.

If you want a pet and little or no milk, or a meat goat, go the Pygmy or wether route. If you want milk, go with mini-goats (a dwarf crossed with a large goat) or a dwarf. However, it is important to realize that you can't keep just one all alone. This is why miniature or dwarf goats are wonderful - for the price of one big goat in acquisition, feeding, set-up, and maintenance, you can have 2 small goats. Basically, this is the reason people say you can have small goats for about half the cost of big goats.
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Old 11/22/07, 09:53 PM
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I love Nigerians, and I got tired of Pygmies quickly. They only come in two main colors and mine never became friendly like my Nigerians. I also love how the Nigerians are so colorful. I can't wait to get milking my girls in March!!
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