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Do Angroa's need horns?
I ask this cuz I would like to get 1 doe! I can reg her with the CGS (Canadian) but do I need to leave horns on? If so then it's a no on my part! 
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09/16/07, 03:02 PM
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If you want to show her, then yes.
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09/16/07, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by hornless
If you want to show her, then yes.
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No... Well we have no shows around here! It would be a 4 hour drive to a show . what do you get form this! It is the CGS angora info!
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The Angora is unique in its hair coat, which is referred to as mohair. The lustrous, curly locks grow at around one inch per month, and are sheared twice a year. Breeding programs aim at high weight of hair production, small fibre diameter, and structural soundness in the breeding stock.
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Horns are not removed from Angora kids. Bucks, as illustrated, grow a rack of horns that generally spread and twist outward at the ends, while does' horns are more simply curved.
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There is no Special Registry for Angoras. When an Angora is bred to any other breed, mohair characteristics disappear; even after many generations using purebred Angora sires, the hair coat is unacceptably kempy.
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Also what is a good weight for one? I seen the buck and does, I could get a baby from and they are so So SO SO So SMALL! (maybe it's just I like my 200 pound nubians!  )
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09/16/07, 06:25 PM
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I don't know about Canadian registry, but to register with either the CAGBA or the AAGBA, the goats must have their horns.
They're very docile goats and really aren't a problem even with their horns. Our Angora buck has a 3 1/2 to 4' spread on his horns, but he is so sweet.
You may need to call that registry and ask them. I also know these here, that the goats cannot be registered until they are over a year old.
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09/16/07, 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 6e
I don't know about Canadian registry, but to register with either the CAGBA or the AAGBA, the goats must have their horns.
They're very docile goats and really aren't a problem even with their horns. Our Angora buck has a 3 1/2 to 4' spread on his horns, but he is so sweet.
You may need to call that registry and ask them. I also know these here, that the goats cannot be registered until they are over a year old. |
Is that for a angora's? I know all my dairy kids can be reg all their life! 
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09/16/07, 08:01 PM
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Yeah. For whatever reason, you can't apply for registration on Angora goats until they're over a year old. That is with the AAGBA and the CAGBA. They also have to be horned. Also, I believe that both registries require two different forms of identification. Either a tag and tattoo or a tag and ear notching. All of our does were ear notched and I don't care for it. It looks tacky. All of our goats from here on out will be tagged and tattooed.
The does, their horns do get very long, but they curl around beside their head and unless you manage to get into just right, they're really not dangerous. They're so quiet. I've never had one try to butt me. Our buck doesn't butt, but he does swing his horns around at the other bucks to keep them away. Here's a picture of our registered Angora buck Awesome.
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09/16/07, 08:15 PM
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You might want to call your registry and see what their rules are. They may have different rules.
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09/17/07, 01:25 PM
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Not only that its pretty cruel and painful to debud them or remove their horns!
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09/17/07, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by barelahh
Not only that its pretty cruel and painful to debud them or remove their horns!
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Look I have done the disbudding, And done worry it only hurts for a few seconds!
The whole they done use their horns thing would be ok, but she would live with my does (all have no horns) so if I do get one them I would Reg her and take her horns off
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09/17/07, 03:23 PM
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You know, all my Angoras (who all have their horns) live with my Leicester sheep (which are polled) and they all live together quite peacefully.
It's totally your call. If you're not going to show them and you don't care about registration, then I wouldn't worry about it.
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09/17/07, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 6e
You know, all my Angoras (who all have their horns) live with my Leicester sheep (which are polled) and they all live together quite peacefully.
It's totally your call. If you're not going to show them and you don't care about registration, then I wouldn't worry about it. |
Ok... Well I just don't want to risk the other does. I wanted her Reg incase I don't like them and wanted to sell her! Im not sure if I will get her unless I have another crapy buck year I have the choice of a kid from a normal angora mother and colored buck, or a colored doe and colored buck!
What would you chose?
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09/17/07, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by HazyDay
Ok... Well I just don't want to risk the other does. I wanted her Reg incase I don't like them and wanted to sell her! Im not sure if I will get her unless I have another crapy buck year I have the choice of a kid from a normal angora mother and colored buck, or a colored doe and colored buck!
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Is the kid from the normal mother and the colored buck colored? If so, I would choose that one.
Colored Angora hair brings in more money than white. But a white mixed with colored usually has better quality. Although, if you shear the hair and color it, then it would probably be worth just as much.
The first 2 clips of an Angora baby are worth the most. Then it gradually goes down in price from their because the hair gets more coarse.
Angoras also need more protein in their feed to grow those long beautiful coats. They're also more susceptible to worms than other breeds. They can be sheared twice per year. Their coats generally grow 1" per month.
Good luck!! If you want to talk Angoras, look me up!
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