ruptered CL abscess

[cjean]

Will they bleed, and scab over? Or do they just leave an empty space when the fluid is gone? My wether has a bloody scab on his hip, and so far, we've not had any signs of CL in our 4 goats....I'm hoping this is not it.....

[topside1]

Call in a Vet, spend a little money and have piece of mind....

[cjean]

Arrrgh! He's going to the butcher on Monday, and no vets open until then. And, there is no pus to test. I guess I'll have to have the other three blood -tested. Does anyone know if sheep can get the same type of CL from goats?

[goatkid]

Sheep can get CL from goats. It was a sheep disease in the first place.

[moonspinner]

Hopefully it's not serious - doesn't sound like one of the key places for a CL abcess. But with CL you don't just "hope" it's not that if you've got a lump that ruptured. This is highly contagious and hard to get rid of. So I'd isolate my others until you figure it out.

[deetu]

Originally Posted by cjean

Will they bleed, and scab over? Or do they just leave an empty space when the fluid is gone? My wether has a bloody scab on his hip, and so far, we've not had any signs of CL in our 4 goats....I'm hoping this is not it.....

Was there a lump first where the bloody scab is?
It is possible he just cut himself?

[GSFarm]

CL is extremely over rated. People freak out over it when there really isn't much to freak over. Most likely this lump is a bee sting or sliver of wood in there. CL lumps have thick green pus usually no blood. CL isn't as common as you think.

[cjean]

Well, we found another bloody scab on his rear flank, which is apparently where the lymph nodes may be. The thing is, he is handled often, and we never noticed a lump at all, anywhere. Then all of a sudden, maybe in a week's time, he has these nasty wounds. If you peel up one of the scabs, there is white-ish pus there, but not very much. Haven't seen any green pus yet.

All the research I've been trying to do on CL...it's so confusing! One person says "vaccinate", the other person says "there is no vaccination that works", one person says "thick, smelly cheese-like or toothpaste -like pus", another says "green pus" or "no odor". Which is it????

[Tara]

Hi, I am an absolute newbie, so I can only post my observations on a goat we acquired recently. I did a similar post because of a suspect lump. Her name is Flower.
Well similarly the lump burst unseen. Several weeks ago now. It is now completely healed, or at least appears to be. It did'nt refill with pus, and looks good.
Sorry I don't know if this helps or confuses? We've just purchased a digital camera to post pictures on the internet of various things. I'm sorry to say though we're still figuring out the camera, let alone the picture posting..LOL!
Regards.

[oceanmist]

Please check out the following link http://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/ar...hadenitis.html

and look at the common locations of CL abcesses.

CL abcesses contain thick, non-odorous pus.

There is currently no GOAT vaccine on the market. One is in the making through Colorado Serum, due out late this year or early next year.

The one out for SHEEP is NOT recommended for goats because of the adverse reactions to it.

CL abcesses usually take some time to develop and if you have been handling him frequently without seeing or feeling any abcesses you may be dealing with something else entirely.

A CL abcess typically leaves a fairly gaping hole because of the encapsulation of the abcess... of course depending on the size of the abcess when it ruptures. And they will usually still be oozing pus for a couple of days after they burst open. Blaw~~ shudder, shudder!

Misty

[Tara]

I just love this forum..so many educated and knowledgable actual 'keepers'.
You've just made me a very happy bunny, 'cos my goats abscess burst', end of, no hole, no continuing exudate.
cjean. I hope yours is the same.

[4Hmomwyo]

CL can look very different. Our doe had a lump in a spot that "was not where cl forms", but it was. It appeared, grew and ruptured in approximately 2 weeks time. The pus was very light green, not cheesy or lumpy, but thick like toothpaste. Since it ruptured, not lanced it continued to ooze for about 4 days. There was some blood, especially when I squeezed it to get the pus out. I hope this helps some.

[Alice In TX/MO]

I'd like to know what the risk is to humans.

[ChickenMom]

You can still eat him the meat is not hurt any.

[oceanmist]

In the 4-5 different web sites I've read through today and all the books I have read and all the hundreds of goats I've worked with... I'd say the risk to humans is relatively LOW.

When handling a goat with a ruptured abcess take care to wear disposable gloves, wash your clothes with bleach and NEVER handle the pus. I would say also don't handle it when you have open cuts on your hands or arms just to be on the safe side.

Misty

[oceanmist]

CL abcesses are encapsulated. They are located throughout the lymph system. Even internal abcess are encapsulated. Therefore the meat is not infected or damaged UNLESS you break one open while butchering. I would not eat the meat if you knew you had popped an abcess onto it during the butchering process...

Misty

[cjean]

I very much appreciate all the answers, and to everyone with first-hand experience - thank you, especially. I, too, find much good advice in this forum ~