dog bit goat! help!

rainbowmoon · #1 08/14/07, 09:43 AM

my dog bit my goat this morning. she bled a little. what should I do? will antibiotic ointment be ok for her wound? leave her alone?

Patty0315 · #2 08/14/07, 09:50 AM

Is she utd on shots ? If not get tetnaus for her. Clean the wound , wash it out well with an antibacterial soap. Keep ointment on it watch for infection and maggots. Puncture wounds need to heal from the inside out.

Patty

Sweet Goats · #3 08/14/07, 09:57 AM

First of all, how bad it is? Long story, but I took a goat that almost lost a leg because of a D*** dog. Long story. What the vet said to do was wash it with beatdine (sp), soap and water. Like dish soap. That is all, other then the fact you could put three fists in his hind leg area, I was alos told to ues scarolet oil spray in it twice a day. Good luck

Cheribelle · #4 08/14/07, 10:15 AM

I hate to say this, but I had to have two dogs put down because of this. Be very watchful of the situation. A goat is fun to chase because it runs around erratically, and makes crazy noises, hard to resist for some dogs. The goat will heal, this time....

DKWunlimited · #5 08/14/07, 10:16 AM

Absolutely watch for maggots.. in the summer with all the flies, it can get gross fast!

rainbowmoon · #6 08/14/07, 10:16 AM

I just got her last week.

I am so upset with my dog.

she hasn't had a tetnus shot yet (by me anyway) I was also was under the impression, if a wound bleeds the oxygen kills tetnus? is that not correct?

she seems a bit in shock right now. she lost a little blood. not alot. maybe a tbsp or so. I am going to leave her be for a bit to rest. I cleaned the wounds with peroxide and put neosporin on them as best I could. do you think I should try to cover them so she doesn't get maggots in there? (we have tons of flies right now)

there are 2 wounds. one on her outer hind leg and one by her butt/udder. one is about 1/2" the other about 1". the large one is kind of under the fold of her leg, so I guess that might help in warding off dirt/flies? it had clotted but she got up and ripped open again.

poor baby. I feel horrible!

she is 1 year old btw.

rainbowmoon · #7 08/14/07, 10:22 AM

btw should I wash it off every couple of hours to ward off maggots?

ozark_jewels · #8 08/14/07, 10:34 AM

No, do not cover it. The air and sunshine is the best thing for it right now. Flies will still get under a bandage and wreak unseen havock which will be much worse than if you leave it uncovered so you can see it. Get a wound spray of some sort, and keep the area liberally sprayed to ward off flies. Do not wash it down, you need it to dry out which it cannot do if you keep getting it wet. Moisture is your enemy in situations like this which is why a spray is better than a salve. Keep a very, very close watch on the cut that is under her leg near her udder. That one will be very attractive to flies because it will be more moist under there.
Does she have any company?? A shocky animal should not be left alone to brood. They need something to occupy them so that they do not focus on their pain. She should have another goat near.

Patty0315 · #9 08/14/07, 10:35 AM

You do not want to let it scab over. there is a product called swat . Get it from the pet/feed store. It kills flys and wards them off. Flush the wound 2x a day the cover with swat or antibiotic ointment.

I would get a tetnaus antitox shot then follow up wit cdt. I would also put her on antibiotics.

Patty

DQ · #10 08/14/07, 10:35 AM

my first goat was attacked by a neighbors large german shepard

and had bite wounds all over her. I shaved the areas around the punctures cleaned them wiht peroxide and kept neosporin on them. I also kept her in the house till she was basically healed because of the flys (and because I couldn't figure out how she was getting out). she recovered fine. I think the worst part for her was just the fear. her buddy was dead but didn't have that many wounds on him, I think he basically died of fright.

rainbowmoon · #11 08/14/07, 12:27 PM

thank you!

she seems to have come out of the shock somewhat and is resting. the bleeding stopped from what I can tell. she dripped a couple blobs of blood but I think it's when she moves about she is reopening it. it was/is/has definitly been clotting in any case.

I don't have another goat but we have 4 ducks and my cat was laying with her for awhile. (they have become buddies) she was hiding, but came back to her usual spot now next to the back door.

Please keep your fingers crossed she will be ok!

I am going to call the vet in a bit and see what he advises..

as for my dog (6yo rottweiler)..I don't know what to do with her. she was simply viscious and now I don't trust her a bit outside! my dad thinks I should put her to sleep.

Emilea · #12 08/14/07, 12:40 PM

I am so sorry you are having to think about putting your dog down... I have a rot too... she is my baby... she is almost 5. I would give some antibotics for your goat and watch her... how bad was it??

rainbowmoon · #13 08/14/07, 12:54 PM

doesn't seem too bad..I am just a new goat owner and freaking out!

also,the thing is my dog wouldn't listen. even when I got a broom and hit her with it. (and I would never under normal circumstances hit a dog ever!) she is huge too. like 100 pounds or so..I don't know what to do..I suspect she's killed animals before (rabbits, deer) as she comes home with random things at times.. (antlers,bones,etc) but I can't be sure..she doesn't go after the chickens who free range all over..

I brought the goat inside though (good thing she's a mini!) as the flies are awful outside. she seems relieved and is resting now undisturbed.

MamaDee · #14 08/14/07, 12:57 PM

There is also a product called Catron that kills fly eggs and maggots. I used it when a lady gave me her doeling who was attacked by a dog. She was going to put her down--that's how bad it was. Grace is now doing wonderful--she is a playful, happy little girl. She's still healing, but doing great.

If you see any crusty looking stuff on the wounds it could be fly eggs. Yuck. I used that spray and cleaned it out with an antibacterial soap. Then I put on bedadine and a wound ointment three times a day. Went down to twice and now I'm at once a day. She is healing great. Others are right...if it's a deep wound it's a different ball game from most wounds. Don't let it scab--it has to heal from inside out. Don't cover it but keep it cleaned. Take her temp. to make sure there is no infection. We did tetnus and penicillin. My doeling has one little hole left which still oozes a tiny bit of cream colored stuff. It's still healing but looks great. It started out an inch and a half across and you could see into her insides. She also had other less life threatening wounds.

If you're interested in the thread from my doeling there is a ton of great advice on there--there is also a thread about Cupcake who was attacked by a dog during the same time period. Unfortunately Cupcake didn't make it.....poor thing. I'll try to find the name of those threads.

I'll also try to post pics of Grace--from when it first happened and one from now. I've been meaning to do that to show how a deep wound heals. I learned so much from others when this happened to us.....maybe her pics can help someone else.

Dee

MamaDee · #15 08/14/07, 01:51 PM

Here is the link to the main thread:

[/URL]http://homesteadingtoday.com/showthread.php?t=190484&referrerid=22090[/URL]

Here is the link to the one with pics:

[/URL]http://homesteadingtoday.com/showthread.php?t=191933&referrerid=22090[/URL]

Dee

<<<<O.k., clearly those are the URL's of the two threads...but I can't make them come out as links. Does anyone know how to do that? Sorry.

Dee>>>>

Patty0315 · #16 08/14/07, 02:00 PM

I am sorry to say but it is not the dogs fault. the goat has just come to the home. The dog has never been with livestock before and should have never been off leash with it. You cannot expect an animal to not go with its natural instinct unless it has been trained to do otherwise.

Patty

rainbowmoon · #17 08/14/07, 02:06 PM

patty, I fully agree! I was trying to introduce the dog to the goat and I should have never done that! I feel horrible!

I just will have to keep them seperated for now I suppose. I don;t even know if I can handle the dog on a leash, she's one big muscle. I do have a harness somewhere so we will see. she is out front now and didn;t even go to the fence where the goat was. but I just don't think the dog will ever be able to be around her and now I distrust her (dog) too.

rainbowmoon · #18 08/14/07, 02:08 PM

mamadee- the wounds are nothing like that those pics! (not as bad at all!) they are more like slices. the one under her leg by her udder is maybe 1/4"- 1/2" deep though. that's the one I'm worried about...

watcher · #19 08/14/07, 02:41 PM

I don't get the worry about maggots. Maggots only eat dead flesh and you DO NOT want dead flesh in a wound. AAMOF, not that long ago the FDA certified some company to produce 'medical maggots' to be used on human wounds. My grandma told me stories of putting maggots into wounds to save critters.

Vanne · #20 08/14/07, 02:48 PM

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I am sorry to say but it is not the dogs fault. the goat has just come to the home. The dog has never been with livestock before and should have never been off leash with it. You cannot expect an animal to not go with its natural instinct unless it has been trained to do otherwise.

I agree.