Can you identify the breed?

[lostluver]

We visited my brother tonight and a nearby neighbor was given this goat for some work he'd done. I felt sorry for her and I'd like to have her vet checked and take her to our property. They don't know much at all about goats and she's tied up outside. They'd like to sell her to me.

Can anyone tell what breeds she may be crossed with? I have an idea but I'd like to hear your opinions. You can click on the pictures for larger images.

http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t...ngelloz/Goats/


Thank you so much.

Julie

[Kristinjo]

She looks like she is Saanen and ???? The face looks like it has the Tog markings. Does her face have white markings or is that the flash from the camera? That is my very unexperienced goat guess. As I just got my two Saanens a few weeks ago. What are you leaning towards? She's a sweetie.

[lostluver]

I don't know. Every time I look at her I have different thoughts. Her ears hang more like a Nubian but she's got a different face. Maybe a Saanen/Nubian??

So you think she's a dairy goat for sure?

Those spots on her nose and lips, are those normal?

[HHR]

My guess would be saanen/boerX - or nubian.

[naturewoman]

She looks a lot like my Saanen Toggenburg mix. Very gentle, sweet, and timid. The ears look just like Sonnet's.

[HazyDay]

I argee with HHR. She had air plane ears and on the chunky side. Which tells me Boer or Nubain.

naturewoman, I see where you are coming from but she doesn't have lean dairy body.

[SHELBY]

I don't know but she looks alot like the goat my DD had, I mean alot, right down to the color, and DD's was a spanish.

[lostluver]

She was given to this man from another Mexican family. Her parents may have even come from Mexico. A lot of the Mexican families around here haven't been here for long and sometimes they have new family members that come to live with them from Mexico.

So, do you think she would be a good milk producer? And how old might she be?

Thanks again.

[SHELBY]

If she is a spanish goat, she's a meat breed.
Not sure on the age, You'll probably have to look at her teeth and then compare them to pics on web or a book.

[ajharris]

I would say she definatly has Saanen in her.

[Laura Workman]

I'd guess Saanen-Nubian. Nubian for the ears, the steep rump, and the slight meatiness in the shoulder. While it's true that she does not have a long, willowy dairy neck, many dairy animals don't, and I'm not seeing anything like the chunkiness one would get from a Boer cross. Saanen for the head shape, spots on the lips, and general paleness, especially at eyes, nose and lips. And actually, she does look pretty lean to me except in the one side shot, where the lack of leanness could be attributed to the lack of depth perception in a camera lens. I'm not seeing a lot of ribs, so would not attribute the leanness to lack of condition. Offhand, I'd guess she could be a reasonable milker.

Incidentally, her head looks a bit large for her body, which could either mean some dwarfism. The other possibility that comes to mind, though I've never seen it, being around well fed goats, could be stunted growth from very poor nutrition as a youngster.

[Laura Workman]

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[KSALguy]

my guess is typical range/spanish goat, nothing much to classify her any other way, this is what happens when plain ol goats get bred to plain ol goats for enough generations to loose any resimbalance to any known goat breed listed in any pure bred clubs,.

she is short and compact and narrow. i am sure she is quick and rangy, well suited to liveing off what ever she can find to brows on. she would be a good candidate to use in a Range Meat opperation if bred to a boer, but she wont produce much milk for your use, just enough for her kits i would guess.

[HomesteadBaker]

Originally Posted by Laura Jensen

I'd guess Saanen-Nubian. Nubian for the ears, the steep rump, and the slight meatiness in the shoulder. While it's true that she does not have a long, willowy dairy neck, many dairy animals don't, and I'm not seeing anything like the chunkiness one would get from a Boer cross. Saanen for the head shape, spots on the lips, and general paleness, especially at eyes, nose and lips. And actually, she does look pretty lean to me except in the one side shot, where the lack of leanness could be attributed to the lack of depth perception in a camera lens. I'm not seeing a lot of ribs, so would not attribute the leanness to lack of condition. Offhand, I'd guess she could be a reasonable milker.

Incidentally, her head looks a bit large for her body, which could either mean some dwarfism. The other possibility that comes to mind, though I've never seen it, being around well fed goats, could be stunted growth from very poor nutrition as a youngster.

Like Laura, I thought part Saanen because of the pale pink skin with the black spots (is her udder pinkish with black spots, too?). I also thought her head seems too large for her body size, but had no idea what might cause that other than some possible malnourishment.

Kitty

[HomesteadBaker]

Any idea how old she is?

Kitty

[Jcran]

Saanen in there somewhere which might predict a decent amount of milk, but no telling on the type of udder. Hey, is that just her shoulder projecting or is there a lump there? IF a lump, then be concerned about CL.

[DixyDoodle]

I have a Nubian/Boer X and mine is way more chunky in the body and coarser looking in the face than yours. And mine has wayyyyy larger ears, and much more of a Roman nose. So I'm not so sure I would say it's a Nubian/Boer X.

Maybe that (the finer face) is the Saanen in her showing?

[cjb]

sannen/nube to me. Maybe more saanen and maybe 1/4 ober or togg or some such. She looks 3/4 dairy something, 1/4 nube or boer maybe?

[Milk n' Honey]

We have a goat that looks almost identical to this one and she is 1/2 sannen, 1/4 boer, 1/4 nubian.

[lostluver]

Originally Posted by Milk n' Honey

We have a goat that looks almost identical to this one and she is 1/2 sannen, 1/4 boer, 1/4 nubian.

Do you milk her?