CL questions

[fishhead]

I just found out that the herd that I put my goats into for the winter has CL and now my doe has what looks like a CL lump on her face.

If I were to bring the goats back to my clean farm and it became infected with CL how long does the bacteria last without goats?

We get hard freezing weather.

[chamoisee]

I have heard that it can last for a decade or two, even in areas with cold winters.

[Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians]

Years, I know in Goat Medicine one of the tests showed the exude alive on a corral board 7 years later...I have no idea where this test was done, and of course the lab didn't freeze or anything.

I had CL back when we didn't know what it was, once I found out and started the whole CAE and CL prevention, I simply built a new barn, kids were the only ones who were gleaned from the positive stock and lived in the new barn. I made the area around the old barn alot smaller until I finally put down the last doe in the old barn (just because we don't want CAE or CL, does with it live very long lives).

After the last death I sold my barn and closed off the front of the pasture and had nothing in that area for many years....I then used some boer crosses in this area, nothing crept up and we butchered one to look for internal abscess. The area is now my woods pen that the bucks live in when not in heavy rut or breeding.

But if an abscess has busted on your farm I would be afraid to bring in clean stock...cleaning with Techrol etc. is fine, but can you really do your fence and trees? Here in the woods I knew there was no way I would be able to get all surfaces.

Sorry this happened to you. Vicki

[fishhead]

Thanks for the help.

I guess I'll have to decide if I want to bring any of them home or leave them where they are and look for other goats.

My building on the farm is only a temporary structure and the "pasture" is about 5,000' feet of pond dike plus a flat area of about 2 acres.

[Feral Nature]

If I had the choice not to bring them home, I wouldn't. especially since you have limited acreage. If you possibly can do it, buy new goats from a clean tested herd. It all sounds sad now, but you will kick yourself in the future if you bring that stuff onto your place. Sorry.

[AnnaS]

I would call down to the U of Mn Vet school and talk to someone who knows about CL. Dr. Cyndi Wolf comes to mind, but there are probably quite a few Drs. down there that could give you solid advice.

If you decide to get new goats, let me know. I will have Togg milkers & Boer xs for sale later this summer.

[fishhead]

I need to get some goats on the dikes ASAP before the weeds get completely grown and go to seed plus the brush is getting big.

How contagious is CL? Should I assume my 2 yearling wethers and this years wether are infected?

They've only been there since October.

[Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians]

If they have active CL in their herd, you can pretty much gurantee your goats have it also.

You can deal with CL if you would like, if you are go to a boer goat list like Chevontalk at Yahoo groups. Just slice and dice or fill them with formulane, vaccinate. For myself it is not an ethical way to deal with a communicable zoonic disease, but it is for some. Vicki