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Old 06/06/07, 08:26 PM
 
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LGD Question

As I get prepared for goats I'm trying to figure out all the questions before hand, but I know I'll get even more when I get em....lol

A question about using LGDs. As it seems most seperate the does from the bucks do most of you have two or more LGDs? One for the does pasture and one for the bucks? I figure that is the case...or maybe you fence in a way that allows one LGD to cover them both, but to still be inside a fence line.

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Old 06/06/07, 11:16 PM
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I have 3 Great Pyrenees right now. Coyotes are smart and will send in one to be a scout/decoy. A single dog will chase off the decoy and the pack will move in for the kill while the single dog is busy chasing the decoy. If a pack of coyotes attacks a single dog they might kill it. With at least 2 dogs, one will stay with the herd while the other chases off the decoy, then come back to help the other one when the pack moves in. A pair will be able to watch each others backs and can fight off a pack. I prefer to have at least 3 or 4 with the herd. Feed the guard dogs well, nothing can thin a herd as fast as a starving guardian dog.
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I have 3 Great Pyrenees right now. Coyotes are smart and will send in one to be a scout/decoy. A single dog will chase off the decoy and the pack will move in for the kill while the single dog is busy chasing the decoy. If a pack of coyotes attacks a single dog they might kill it. With at least 2 dogs, one will stay with the herd while the other chases off the decoy, then come back to help the other one when the pack moves in. A pair will be able to watch each others backs and can fight off a pack. I prefer to have at least 3 or 4 with the herd. Feed the guard dogs well, nothing can thin a herd as fast as a starving guardian dog.
This seems to make very good sense. Do you keep all your goats together? (Does and bucks) I am leaning to keeping them seperate so that I can handbreed mine. Thanks for the information.
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Old 06/07/07, 09:14 AM
 
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pyrs eat goats?

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Feed the guard dogs well, nothing can thin a herd as fast as a starving guardian dog.
are you saying that the pyrs will eat goats if they are starved? i'm sure it makes sense but ive never heard it admitted anywhere. i have heard that the pyrs will eat dead fetuses and i have watched them search for in a manicial fashion every drop of blood and afterbirth after a birthing.

the goats trust my dogs enough to have them babysit when the mommas go out to eat. will they stop eating goats once they have been given food again?
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Old 06/07/07, 09:26 PM
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Mavors, I keep my bucks separate from the does. I do it both for breeding purposes and for milking. If a buck is with the does, it will make the milk taste "bucky".

leecofarm, This is what I've been told. I've never let my dogs get hungry to find out if it's true, but it does make sense that it would happen. Pyr's are loyal to their herd and won't leave it unprotected, so their only option is to find food in the herd if their owners don't keep them fed. I've read that they will kill a weak or sick kid or lamb for food. I guess their thinking is to forfeit the weakest to protect the rest. I've read about it on web sites of goat & sheep owners. They claim that the dogs will pick out a sick or weak member of the flock to kill for food, but only if they are extremely hungry. It's not just Pyr's that will kill to survive, all guardian dogs will do that, I don't know if many owners of guardian dogs are aware of it, if they just don't talk about it, or don't believe it. Personally I keep mine well fed and take no chances.

I have tame rabbits, chickens, ducks, and lots of other little animals that free range on my property. The dogs have never killed anything that belongs here. They will kill or chase away anything that tries to enter the property, such as skunks, opossums, coyotes, and even snakes. They know what belongs and what doesn't belong here. It's easy to introduce new animals. I just take them nose to nose with the dogs and pet the dogs while holding the new animal. Then turn the new animal loose in front of the dogs. The dogs accept the new animal immediately.
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Old 06/07/07, 09:43 PM
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LGD=Large Guardian Dog?
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Old 06/07/07, 09:53 PM
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LGD=Large Guardian Dog?
Livestock Guardian Dog

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Old 06/07/07, 09:57 PM
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LGD=Large Guardian Dog?
Yep, also can be livestock guardian dog.
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