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05/31/07, 07:57 AM
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Question For you Nigie folks
I have an Alpine doe, first freshener. She's really rather small, always has been, but she's a sweetie and a bit of a favorite of mine in spite of her small stature. I bred her to one of my Alpine bucks last fall and she had a single buck kid that died during birth due to her having a difficult time. Greta came through just fine though.
My question: Since she's such a small doe, would it be a good move to breed her to a Nigie buck instead of my Alpine? Would there be a market for such a kid, doeling at least? Greta is a beautiful black and white pied doe, looks like a little Holstein cow.
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05/31/07, 08:33 AM
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I think you would get a cute mini!
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05/31/07, 08:58 AM
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I would breed her Nigie. I have a Lamancha doe that is a little small that is in with a Nigie buck now. Smaller kids (usually) if the doe is not overfed.
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05/31/07, 09:12 AM
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Okay...so now I need to find a Nigie buck in my area.
Anyone?
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05/31/07, 10:39 AM
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Try the NDGA website, Ruth.
I bred my smaller Alpine doe to my Nigie for that very reason. She had a pretty big baby, even though I bred her to a petite Nigie buck.
The baby is a rip! She is the one in my thread titled "I love this picture" sitting on her mama's back. She thinks she owns the world. I just love her. She likes to sneak up behind humans and put her hooves on their butts. She knows we don't let her do this, that's why she sneaks up behind.
Adelina, her friend, has better manners---she just paws us with her hooves from behind for attention.
My big Alpine buck throws BIG babies. I bred him to a big Nupine doe that I have, and she had a bit of a problem pushing out her buckling. He was and is large.
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05/31/07, 10:51 AM
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Can't find a buck near me, dang it!
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05/31/07, 11:23 AM
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It would be called a mini alpine and since NDs, to me, most resemble the alpines I think you would be extremely pleased with the result. And might be best of two worlds in that you'd get a bit more milk from a cross. In my area at least there is a market for them.
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05/31/07, 01:27 PM
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How near are you to NY or Ohio? I seem to recall there are Nigie breeders there.
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05/31/07, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ailsaek
How near are you to NY or Ohio? I seem to recall there are Nigie breeders there.
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LOL...both. I'm up in that little niche of PA close to both borders.
Ruth
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05/31/07, 05:20 PM
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How far is Marengo from you? Buttin' Heads is supposed to be one of the better breeders.
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06/01/07, 01:33 AM
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Yup, if the buck and doe are registered, you'd have a registerable first-generation Mini Alpine. Actually, the doe doesn't even have to be registered, just look like an Alpine. But don't bet the farm on small babies. I had a first freshener Lamancha bred to my Nigie buck, and the single baby was big enough to die on the way out. Very nice broken chamoisee doeling, too.  I'd be sure to let your girl get through a couple heats and flush her before breeding to make as sure as possible you'll get more than one kid.
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06/01/07, 03:30 AM
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Oh,I forgot about Buttin Heads. I think they may be a prospect.
Ruth
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06/01/07, 04:25 AM
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Ruth I PM you.
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