Afterbirth Still Attached

Tango · #1 05/25/07, 05:25 AM

My post titled "Too Much Against Him" describes the situation with this doe. This morning I see the afterbirth is still attached and dragging on the ground. It will be 24 hours since the dead kid was pulled at 11 a.m. Any advice, other than calling the vet which is obvious, and will be done when their office opens.

cmharris6002 · #2 05/25/07, 05:40 AM

You can give her 2cc oxytocin. If she had a traumatic delivery you could also give her Banamine or FluMeglumine 1cc per 100lbs

Christy

Tango · #3 05/25/07, 05:51 AM

Thanks Christy. Sadly, I don't have any of those prescriptions on hand.

ozark_jewels · #4 05/25/07, 06:13 AM

I assume you are milking the doe?? Of course that helps release the afterbirth. The only times I have had a retained afterbirth was after a couple of hard labours. I gave the does red raspberry and feverfew and she passed it within a half hour. I gave her as much as she would eat, and if she didn't like it plain(most love it plain), I would mix it in with a little feed. I always try to give does who had it difficult, some red raspberry. Its very good for getting everything back in shape.

LittleRedHen · #5 05/25/07, 08:03 AM

I had a doe who kept hers for about 48 hours before it finally all came off. She didn't need any help nor did she get any infection from it.

computerchick · #6 05/25/07, 08:09 AM

Retained placenta - Please don't give her oxytocin. Her cervix is closed or closing, it won't help.

You'll want to have her bolused or lavaged with an interuterine bolus. It will pass when she comes back into heat. Do not pull on the rest of it.

Boluses can be found at Tractor Supply, but you have to get it gently in there up past the cervix. This is one I left to my vet when we had to deal with it.

Andrea

Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians · #7 05/25/07, 05:25 PM

First 2cc of oxytocin is a huge amount for a goat...try 1/2cc every 6 hours or so it is fine. A doe who has just kidded has her own naturally occuring oxytocin at milkdown, so giving her oxytocin IM is not a problem...and if the placenta is hanging (which is not retained placenta) than the cervic can not be closed.

Tie the whole thing up out of the way with hay string, this will also add weight to it with it tied into a ball. Lots of massage, lots of milking of the udder. This is not an emergency situation, the vet will do no more than give her oxytocin and pull the placenta.

With you pulling the dead kid (sorry I didn't read your other thread) and now the placenta (the doe didn't clean) antibiotics are in order. Too many dead kids from bad precentations, poor labors and does who do not clean and you should look into your minerals. Vicki

cmharris6002 · #8 05/25/07, 07:57 PM

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First 2cc of oxytocin is a huge amount for a goat

Uhgggg! I should know better than to listen to my vet...

Christy

Tango · #9 05/25/07, 09:07 PM

Thanks all. I've had a lot of things going on today, to end the day, the pump broke down. Means no water in my house. The doe passed the afterbirth not too long ago, around 6 pm. Has a major infection going on so I gave her what I had here: Biomycin 12 cc in the muscle. She is currently browsing. Ate a good portion of goat feed, drank water. Is alert. Again I left her pen open so she could go out if she wanted to. She stayed in there all day until she passed it, then she got hungry. Will have to get those boluses next time I am in town. Any chance Biomycin will help this? BTW, she has no milk. I feed a high copper goat mineral, top dressed but the drought is probably hurting the quality of the browse. Will give it out free choice. I ended up not calling a vet. I can't keep calling vets when stuff happens. Just can't afford them as a monthly event.

goatkid · #10 05/26/07, 02:04 PM

Biomycin is what I give a goat who I have had to go into to deliver kids. It's the med my vet recommends for anything involving potential uterine infection. I repeat the injection every other day for three doses.
One thing I do to cut down on trips to the vet is that I have him sell me bottles of the common medicines needed for goats and keep other non RX stuff on hand. Then, when one of my goats is sick or injured, I can treat it my self and if I do need to call the vet, he can usually tell me how to treat the goat over the phone without me having to schedule an appointment. There are some times when I do need to take a goat to the vet and I willingly do so as this is part of responsible animal husbandry. Most things, however, I am able to treat at home.
I hope your goat responds to treatment. Is this a dairy breed? If so and you want milk. I'd put her in the stand and milk what you can from her twice a day. She should go up in production.

**mygoat** · #11 05/26/07, 02:30 PM

If she's a dairy breed, you'll have to milk her right now. Start out at 2x per day then go down to at least once a day to prevent udder damage. If it's not a dairy breed, let her bag up then milk out the udder to prevent damage. good to hear your doe is getting better, hope that infection goes away! Best of luck to you.

computerchick · #12 05/26/07, 07:41 PM

Any placenta that is still 'retained' after 24 hours is considered a retained placenta. DO NOT PULL after that long. Vet won't even pull after 6 hours as the cervix is closing. I would definitely try to either wash out with a 'natural' antibiotic type uterine wash or bolus - get some form of antibiotic actually up in there!

I don't agree with all the articles on this site, but this page has some good info - http://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/ar...complic06.html

With a doe, I probably would consider a vet call after pulling a kid to make sure everything was in the right place, but so long after the kidding occurred (48 hours) not much to do...unless that placenta was still hangin'! Glad it is out...just keep an eye on her temp and keep the antibiotics running.

Good luck!

Andrea