Fecal results

christij · #1 04/27/07, 09:38 PM

Stronglyes AKA Roundworms was what the vet found in my fecal samples. I was suprised to see that she sent Pancur home with hubby as the treatment. I had not heard of using that as a goat wormer...

fcnubian · #2 04/27/07, 09:41 PM

I have used Panacur before and know another goat breeder that uses it to with success.

Bearfootfarm · #3 04/27/07, 10:01 PM

Panacur is the same chemical (Fenbendazole) as Safeguard, a common goat wormer

cmharris6002 · #4 04/28/07, 05:50 AM

Make sure to do a follow up fecal to make sure that wormer is effective in your area.

Christy

christij · #5 04/28/07, 06:30 PM

So I can use the Safegaurd as a basis for how many days I need to dump milk?

Also I was planning on moving to a new field after worming - how many days will it take for the passing of worms? I don't want to move to the new field while they are still passing after the treatment.

ozark_jewels · #6 04/29/07, 03:54 PM

Most vets know very little about goats. Panacur/Safeguard has very little affect on any type of worms except tapeworms. If your worming for anything but tapes, its about like worming them with water in *most* areas.
I'd get some Cydectin cattle pour-on if I were you. Your in the same area, and thats what we need to use here. Its given ORALLY.

christij · #7 04/29/07, 03:58 PM

YOwsers. We just used the Pancur today - Miracle and Cassie weren't too bad they know the drill. How long should I wait before using the Cydectin - after another fecal check?

ozark_jewels · #8 04/29/07, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by christij

YOwsers. We just used the Pancur today - Miracle and Cassie weren't too bad they know the drill. How long should I wait before using the Cydectin - after another fecal check?

You can wait and see if it worked, hopefully it did, but I doubt it.

Or you can worm them right now with the Cydectin. It won't hurt to worm them with both at the same time. Up to you. This is a bad time of year for worms in the MO area, so watch them closely.

Sweet Goats · #9 04/29/07, 09:55 PM

If your vet gave you Panacure, use that. I know some people don't like safeguard. It may not work in THEIR area, but that does not mean it will not work in your area. I just went to a Health and Nutritional clinic. They were for goats. They said they would use Safeguard and every third time use Ivomectin. I asked her about CYdectin and she said that was fine. So like some people say Safegurad does not work at all on goats, that is NOT TRUE.

ozark_jewels · #10 04/29/07, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Goats

If your vet gave you Panacure, use that. I know some people don't like safeguard. It may not work in THEIR area, but that does not mean it will not work in your area. I just went to a Health and Nutritional clinic. They were for goats. They said they would use Safeguard and every third time use Ivomectin. I asked her about CYdectin and she said that was fine. So like some people say Safegurad does not work at all on goats, that is NOT TRUE.

Christie *is* in my area and her goats came from me. The vets here tell the goat people to use Safeguard/Panacure even though it doesn't work here. They simply don't know much about goats. Safeguard only works for tapes here.
I see you live in CO. Chances are you have a much dryer climate and low humidity where you are and I know the breeders in Colorado have way less problems with worms and coccidiosis there. Thats fine. But if you don't do preventative worming and cocci treatments here?? The chances are you will lose goats in our wet humid climate. So.......vets don't know everything. And when it comes to goats? Most vets don't know squat. If your vet knows how to treat goats, count yourself *very* lucky.

If I did everything my vet told me with my goats, they would be in trouble.

Jillis · #11 04/30/07, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ozark_jewels

If I did everything my vet told me with my goats, they would be in trouble.

Amen to that.

I used Ivermectin on my goats...but when I switched to the Cydectin pour on for cattle, I saw an immediate and dramatic improvement in parasite control. I learned about it from the wonderful experienced, knowledgeable breeders on this forum.

maryanne · #12 04/30/07, 06:26 AM

i also, in north carolina, seen a huge difference when i used the pour on for cattle versus when i used safegard

christij · #13 04/30/07, 09:27 PM

I was so hoping to find something that worked for my small group that wasn't chemical... but it looks like I need to clean them out before I can do that!

Has anyone had luck with the herbal blend sold by Molly's Herbals?