Goat wormer? Not in my area!

[thaiblue12]

Can you use Ivermeticin (sp?) for horses on goats?
I have one goat with clumpy poo and I am thinking worms. I can only buy the pellet kind of wormer for goats. I used it a few weeks ago but one has the clumps. I have tried to figure out who but whenever I see them pooping it is pellets.
I have been to 3 feed stores and only see wormers for horses, the pellets for goats or a giant and I mean giant bottle of wormer for cows.
Oh they also have a weird one that treats, turkeys, chickens and pigs. An odd combo.
I would like to worm them now with one safe for pregnant goats and not have to mail order it. Or is that my only option with what is available here?
Thanks

[Freeholder]

Yes, you can use the ivermectin wormer for horses. Double the dose, though -- for some reason goats need more wormer than horses do. So for a one hundred pound doe, give the amount of horse wormer that it says for 200-250 lbs of horse.

And, make sure your wormer doesn't get where a dog can get ahold of it. I had one VERY sick puppy for over a week after she chewed on a tube of ivermectin horse wormer, and she hardly got anything out of it. (She's part collie, and some collies are extremely sensitive to ivermectin, but any dog can get too much and get deathly ill from it.)

Kathleen

[thaiblue12]

Thanks I will get today. No one at the feed store could answer that question.
So I figured it best to ask here, more experience
I can't weigh them though. That tape measure thing says it does not work on smaller breed goats. They are pygmy crosses and I am guessing 50 pounds but I could be off. Is there a way to weight them without getting on a scale and trying to lift them?
Thanks again.

[Freeholder]

Are you able to lift them? If so, could you heft a 50 lb. feed sack, and then a goat, and estimate the difference? (Someone needs to come up with weight tapes for the small breeds, and for the meat breeds!) It's hard to overdose a goat on ivermectin, thankfully, so if in doubt go with the higher end of your estimates.

Kathleen

[Kshobbit]

I agree about it being hard to overdose a goat with Ivermectin. I gave a wild body flopping yearling doe a whole syringe of horse Ivermectin. Did not bother her at all.
I give horse/paste safeguard wormer too. It is a good idea to repeat it in 2 to 3 weeks.

[toomb68]

Originally Posted by thaiblue12

Thanks I will get today. No one at the feed store could answer that question.
So I figured it best to ask here, more experience
I can't weigh them though. That tape measure thing says it does not work on smaller breed goats. They are pygmy crosses and I am guessing 50 pounds but I could be off. Is there a way to weight them without getting on a scale and trying to lift them?
Thanks again.

i weigh myself on a bathroom scale, then pic up the goat and weigh both of us. it works well. you may have to have someone else read the scale for you, however.

[Janis Sauncy]

In addition to the Ivermectin paste (which I alternate with Safeguard/Pancur), I also like to hit my goats up with the pour-on Ivermectin, especially in the spring when they've spent a lot of time cooped up together (it clears up lice, etc., too). I know a lot of people give the injectable Ivermectin orally, although I have never done that myself.

I prefer the paste to any kind of pellet, anyway. You have more control over how much they get and you also know they have gotten as much as you want them to have. (It can be a little tough, though, with goats that aren't used to being handled.)

Janis

[Oat Bucket Farm]

I have seen the pour on at the feed store, but it says its for cows. Is the cow stuff safe for goats?

[Janis Sauncy]

Yes, that is the stuff I use. I triple the dose and have never had any problems. (When I say triple, if you have a 100 pound goat, set the marker thingy that you squeeze the liquid up into for a 300 pound animal).

I've done pygmy and dairy goats with this, with that dosage, for a long time, with only good results. Cleans them up, inside and out.

I did come across another pour-on wormer for cattle that was NOT ivermec; since I wasn't familiar with it, I didn't use it. When in doubt, call your vet.

Janis

[bergy5]

We give 3X on all the horse wormers.

We have a 4 year old that will butt her head at the wormer trying to get the entire tube. Twice she has been sucessful. No harm though. Except for my temper when she looks at me with that big smile afterwards. LOL