Bloody Scours

Eunice · #1 03/25/07, 07:10 PM

I have a 2 day old buckling with bloody scours. It's more blackish colored than red, but he acts like it hurts. His stomach was pretty distended this morning, but it's some better now. He doesn't drink well, and I've had to feed him with an eyedropper. Anybody have any clues as to what's going on and what I can do about it?

white eagle · #2 03/25/07, 07:55 PM

Eunice does the poo smell bad. If so he could had gotten Cocci. Which and cause the scours and the poo to smell bad and be blackish.

GL.

Eunice · #3 03/25/07, 08:08 PM

Yes, it smells terrible. I'll look into it.

ozark_jewels · #4 03/25/07, 08:24 PM

E-coli????????

Eunice · #5 03/25/07, 08:38 PM

It's not watery enough for E-coli. I don't think he's quite old enough for Cocci, though either. There's less blood in the scours than there was before, but he still isn't a very happy little guy. I've been giving him Pepto Bismol and it seems to be helping.

ozark_jewels · #6 03/25/07, 09:17 PM

Oh, another thought. I saw something this January that I had never seen before. Clostridium in a two day old kid. Blood in the pee and poop(vet said either/or, didn't have to be in both to be clostridium), bloating, lack of appetite, etc. Never even knew they could get it that young. It never crossed my mind that could be what I was dealing with. I did lose both doelings and had them posted by the vet and samples sent to the lab. It was Clostridium. Might be something to check into.

Goatsandsheep · #7 03/25/07, 09:32 PM

A two day old is more likely to have e-coli then cocci. Had twin lambs last year get e-coli. Blood in the stool was the first sign. Give naxel for 3 days if I remember right. G&S

white eagle · #8 03/25/07, 11:29 PM

It was the first thing to hit my mind. Never delt with e-0coli yet an hope to GOD never do.. Maybe later when I slow down from work I will read up on the ecoli.

GL to the one with kid. Reason I thought also cocci is because of being on the ground.

Eunice · #9 03/26/07, 07:01 AM

I lost the kid. He died this morning. Poor fella. I just hope we don't have a repeat. Thank you all for your help.

ozark_jewels · #10 03/26/07, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Eunice

I lost the kid. He died this morning. Poor fella. I just hope we don't have a repeat. Thank you all for your help.

I'm sorry.....I'd check into the clostridium thing if I were you.....it sounds *very* much like what I lost those first two kids of the season from.

fishhead · #11 03/26/07, 08:11 AM

There is an anti-toxin shot for clostridium that might work if this happens again.

Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians · #12 03/26/07, 01:35 PM

On a 2 day old kid? A two day old kid would be moving away from black meconium poop and having yellow colostrum poop. It is normal to see a little blood in poop in kids the first couple of bm's, it is not normal for the rest of the time. Smelly poop is nearly always ecoli, and it comes this young from a wet kidding area where the navel wicks up the ecoli as the kid hits the ground.

Also, now if it's ecoli, than dry the pens out, know you have it (and it sticks around for years) and deal with it via vaccination or not letting your kids be born in this area...but a 2 day old kid with this kind of problem and it's not ecoli, put it down. You are trying to save it's life to what end? It certainly isn't something that should be breeding anything, not all livestock born is normal and you have to cull some at birth.

Taking your time and energy away from the whole herd while you mess with one kid is not doing your whole herd or yourself any favors. Vicki

cjb · #13 03/26/07, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicki McGaugh TX Nubians

On a 2 day old kid? A two day old kid would be moving away from black meconium poop and having yellow colostrum poop. It is normal to see a little blood in poop in kids the first couple of bm's, it is not normal for the rest of the time. Smelly poop is nearly always ecoli, and it comes this young from a wet kidding area where the navel wicks up the ecoli as the kid hits the ground.

Also, now if it's ecoli, than dry the pens out, know you have it (and it sticks around for years) and deal with it via vaccination or not letting your kids be born in this area...but a 2 day old kid with this kind of problem and it's not ecoli, put it down. You are trying to save it's life to what end? It certainly isn't something that should be breeding anything, not all livestock born is normal and you have to cull some at birth.

Taking your time and energy away from the whole herd while you mess with one kid is not doing your whole herd or yourself any favors. Vicki

You missed her note that it already died