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Old 02/23/07, 04:59 PM
 
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Question Beating a Dead Horse? or "Mind over 40" coccidia question

It's not like we've discussed this enough but I've got to bring it up again:

Dimethox 40% or Albon(same as dimeth but 12.5%) or CORID? Which is best for PREVENTING coccidia and what dose(s) do folks recommend and at what age?

My neighbor said she's going to use CORID. I told her I thought I'd heard somewhere on this board to NOT use Corid, don't know where, when, or why...the 40+brain, she ain't what she used to be.

I've heard a number of ways to use the Dimethox 40% but would like to save and print all the hows and whys from y'all.

I thought Albon was for TREATING an existing case of coccidiosis. That right?
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Old 02/23/07, 05:22 PM
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I just emailed another goat person in my area about this today. I trust her - this is what she says.

Have a fecal done on some of your older animals to see if cocci is present and in what concentrations. If concentration is low, she suggests using, at 5 weeks - Triple Sulfa, Sulmet or Albon, 7 days (give orally with dosing syringe). The dosage is in pounds and is on the package. She doesn't recommend Corid for kids, but didn't say why.

I plan on having a fecal done this week. I've never had a case of cocci, but others around me have. The neighbor (about 3/4 of a mile away) lost 50 rabbits in September. We had a bad mosquito year last year, but it's been dead cold all winter - the prevention won't hurt them though.
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Old 02/23/07, 05:41 PM
 
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A sulfa is a sulfa is a sulfa. Dimthox, Albon, sulmet, suflaquinoxiline they are all in just differing concentrations, if you don't want to go do dairygoatinfo.com and look up in the goatkeeping101 section it's under sannendoah.com med lists, it lists all the sufla's by dose..then find someone who uses exactly the one you purchase and ask them how they dose it....the only one I know by heart is the Dimethox IV injectable is given at 1cc per 10 pounds orally the first day then 1/2 the dose day 2, 3, 4 and 5...repeat every 21 days for prevention...for treatment do not back off the dose days 2, 3, 4 and 5. Obviously this is for kids, way to much drug to give orally to a big goat. Expensive for larger herds. Sulfa's are great for treatment and prevention. Sulfas also are great for bacterial infections and pnemonia so it's more broad spectrum.

The you have Corrid, it is amprolium, it is only for cocci. I use this. In goatkeeping101 over at dairygoatinfo.com we have the dosages for correctly diluting the liquid corrid vets give you, buy it in a pint or half pint and do not dilute it according to your vet or directions on the container, it does not contain enough mg/kg and why most say it does not work. It can also be purchased in a powder in vet catalogs, some places M&S Supply, Sharon is on this and our list, will break down the liquid gallon if you do not have a vet who will. The dosage on our forum is exactly the dose Goat Medicine gives out and it's how I use it. I mix my water part as snow cone syrup from Wallmart so the kids don't balk at the taste if it is given orally, it mixes into milk well at 1cc per 25 pounds (the dosage I mix at) and is great for giving large goats also. We start kids on pervention at 3 weeks old, not a day older, treat for 5 days (unlike sulfa's you do not back down your dose on the last days), off 21 days and back on for 5 days...missing treatments it allows the harmful lifecycle of cocci to flourish which causes the stunted, diarrhea, big bellied kids so many have.

Then there are the continuous feeds...either in milk Deccox M, start about 2 days old and continue until weaned or the feed through Rumensin, Deccoquinate, Lasalocid, Bovatec, they are fed already mixed in pellets or sold in bulk (pipevet.com) know what you are doing if you are going to mix your own. The problem with these is in areas that cocci is a problem no kid at 3 weeks old is eating enough pellets made with any of the above usually 1 pound of pellets per 33 pounds of kid, to really be working, so before they even get a good start cocci has already ruined the kid.

Just like alot of things there is alot of missinformation about Corrid......... good!!! means that we can readily purchase it, it never is on back order Vicki
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