Vet check question

[wildhorse]

If I get the saanen doe what all does the vet need to check? About what will it cost for CAE ,CL ,?and how long will it take to get the results back?
Even if I get this one I still want my Nubian so what to do about quarantine.
I want to get the saanen but should it have CAE or CL I will cull it and I dont want to ruin my chances of being able to keep me some Dairy goats....

[goatkid]

If possible, I'd have the CAE and CL blood tests done before you bring her home. The cost depends on what your vet charges to do it and which lab the tests are sent to. When I had a buckling tested a few years ago, the vet charged $25 for the office call and I believe $15 for the bloodwork, when he sent to PanAm in Texas. I just had CAE tests done by WADDL and I paid $40 for a farm call, $10 herd fee, $20 postage and $12 per goat - averaged $18 per goat for 12 goats to have the vet do it.
When the vet is looking over the goat, I'd also bring a fecal sample in to test for worms, have him look for lice and check for general health such as if she's at the proper weight and are her gums pink, do her teeth look good and her skin and hair look healthy.

[wildhorse]

Thank you Goatkid I appreciate you taking time to help me.

[Patty0315]

If you can pull the blood yourself or the owner can it can be sent in without having the Vet do it. Alot cheaper that way.

Patty

[Liese]

Must be missing something here, why isn't her CAE & CL status a condition of sale? From your post you are saying that you will buy this doe, then test and if she is positive kill her-do I have that right? If that is, then why don't you buy from tested stock? I have only been in goats for 2 years but I bought my does from a yearly tested herd and my buck from another yearly tested herd. Granted this does limits my choices somewhat since not all goat breeders will test their herds but since CAE & CL staus is important to me I just make that distinction at the breeder level. So I don't understand why you would take that risk. Maybe as a newbie I am not understanding something that is patently obvious. Liese, Piedmont region, NC

[Patty0315]

Lots of breeders don't test yearly. Some because they don't know better , some don't care and others its money. I have bought from herds that don't test yearly without a problem. Isolate the new ones test and go from there.

there is no reason to cull a doe because of cl or cae. She can be bred and the offspring taken at birth to prevent the spread of the disease to the babies. yes it's more work but doable.

Patty

[wildhorse]

Liese The main reason I am concidering buying this doe is because her owner is about 80 his goats are about the only things he has and it would help him out.
I know he used to sell them for 200 each and if Im not mistaken most of his goats are registered.I do need to ask him more questions his speech is some what slurred.She could in fact be a diamond in the rough......
My heart is too big.

[Liese]

Hi Patty and everyone, Yes I know you can keep essentially 2 herds; 1 CAE/CL negative and 1 positive. But that's not what Wild Horse said she was going to do. She says: 'but should it have CAE or CL I will cull it and I dont want to ruin my chances of being able to keep me some Dairy goats.... '. There is nothing there about the seller taking back the doe. Well, to me that means putting the doe down because how could you ethically re-sell the doe now knowing she was positive UNLESS that info is disclosed to a buyer and accepted as a condition? Whew, that might be a tough sale!
From my perspective if the current owner 8 or 80 doesn't care about about the status of his herd, that's fine, personal perogative-the doe is there and hopefully happy - but would I as a buyer with a personal desire to know and want a negative CAE/CL staus of my purchase buy from him, test and then put down the doe-no, to me that's no "bargain" especially for the goat. Would I keep a doe that later tested postive-yes, in a seperate herd.
Here in this area of NC, some have the Vet college students and instructor out to do this kind of work-I don't know if it is less but perhaps something for others to consider looking into. I can take my small herd to a neighboring farm when the Vet comes for annual work-ups. This can also save money. Liese, Piedmont region, NC

[Patty0315]

I understood her question but also wanted her to know other options. Cae would probally be easier to deal with but CL can be also. Giving the vaccine to positive animals is suppose to lower the # of out breaks also. By having either cae or cl does not limit you to not having dairy animals , it just makes it a little harder.

My main herd is neg and I plan on keeping them that way but i do have a positive doe , have not tested but I know she is. She is a pet amd a beatiful animal. I cannot cull her the kids would kill me.

Patty

[Liese]

Dear Patty, I apologize, I took your entire message to be a reply to me, not just the 1st paragraph. The idea of culling/killing a doe for testing positive shook me up and I was responding from my gut, not my head. Hopefully your more straight forward suggestions will help many realize that there are alternatives that they can explore. And in a recent thread on Practical Goat at Yahoo, there was notice that a CL vaccine for goats will be released this year. Liese, Piedmont region, NC