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Old 11/24/06, 01:46 PM
 
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Housing a cow and two goats

Has anybody ever wintered a cow and goats together. We are thinking of getting a Jersey and thought of putting her in the same housing area as our goats. Any thoughts?
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Old 11/24/06, 02:19 PM
 
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I have a 6m old holstein bull (soon to be cut) in with my dairy goats....w/ free pasture access....sometimes he sleeps outside....but I've seen the girls laying w/ him too in the barn. He's near 500# .I do have an outdoor pen for him once the nannies start kidding in March.

Sometimes he pretend mounts them in jealousy and also seems to like to smell urine from time to time like the buck....but he will have no interest soon enough
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Old 11/24/06, 02:38 PM
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I have a similiar arrangment now with my 13 Boer and 2 summer calves (one Angus, the other Jersey X). The calves are still pretty small , but they don't bother the goats at all. The buck runs the roost and the heifer calves seem to respect that. They all have access to pasture, hay, and grain, so food isn't an issue. I do plan to remove the calves in a few weeks so they are unable to freely range in the goat kidding area to ensure no trampled kids since kidding season is quickly approaching. So, I guess my suggestion is that it will work if the cow is accustomed to goats and vice versa and they all have plenty of room and feed.
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Old 11/24/06, 03:28 PM
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We have been wondering the same thing, have you asked on the cattle board. Our jerseys are great at keeping dogs away, but also chase other things as well. On one hand would be great as herd defenders, but are so territorial may hurt smaller animals...
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Old 11/24/06, 04:26 PM
 
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I've also found that the calf will clean up the hay the goats have picked thru....quite a nice arrangement
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Old 11/24/06, 04:53 PM
 
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I have my jersey in with the flock of sheep
But, I need a jersey door the sheep can't gp through
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Old 11/24/06, 05:04 PM
 
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Our calf was raised as part of the goat herd and started bedding down with them for the night after we weaned her. (She had her own night hutch until then, but spent day time interacting with them once she was a few weeks old.)

She's now 1.5 years old and still sleeps with them in a group calf hutch (sized for 4 calves) and is very aware of and careful with her body movements and hooves. Aunt Sandy ("the enforcer" - 2nd in command goat doe) was in charge of thunking proper etiquette into Connie the cow and taught her a lot about not being boisterous.

We just spent a lovely afternoon in the sunshine at the top of the hill today, chewing cud (humans chewing gum), with goats, humans and cow all sitting in the sun together. When Connie came to lie with the group, she gently tucked all 600+ lbs of herself in next to me and Sandy. She can do this without bumping or stepping on anyone and just gently tucks herself in. She doesn't flop down carelessly and she places each hoof very carefully so she doesn't step on anyone. The goats don't even pull their hooves away from her as she does this because she is just so gentle and body aware.

This could be quite a different situation if we hadn't brought Connie in as a tyke who was small enough for the goats to guide and train. You should also know that we don't breed our goats, so we don't put goat tykes into the mix. The shape and size of our shelter would have too many walls and corners where a baby goat could get accidentally squashed or smothered by another goat or by Connie.

In my opinion, for animals with such size difference to sleep safely in fairly close quarters requires that the animals truly understand how to interact with each other. A baby goat wouldn't have the mental facilities to sort that out and is at risk of injury until it grows in size and wisdom. A baby calf doesn't have the mental facilities either, but it's size protects it while it develops it's thinking and it's herd social skills.

There's certainly ways to make it work, as well as a lot of ways it can go wrong. Our vet is always amazed to see that the cow doesn't push, nudge or toss the goats - not even when they are fed from the same bowl. But that's only because she's a full member of the herd and the goats were able to thunk the rules into her when she was small enough to be intimidated by them and young enough to view them as parents and teachers. If we had started by putting a mental teenager cow into the herd, I'd expect we'd have a very different experience.

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Old 11/24/06, 07:22 PM
 
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I don't mind them in the field together, but I don't like cattle coming in my goat barn because they are so messy! (I also had a clumsy, overgrown calf take down a goat pen once; I guess he bounced into it or something. )
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