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10/25/06, 07:04 PM
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Caprice Acres
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Registration... What does this mean?
Well, got my registration form for my Alpine doe. she needs to be transferred to my name, but at least I can see her pedigree.
Her registered name is Hawthorn Heritage Heidi.
Her father is Alpine-Valleys Independance, and under his name it says *B and LA 2006 (not sure what that means, want to clarify? LOL)
Her mother is Udder-Paradise Justaswetreward.
Her sire's sire is CH Alpine Vallys PVL Inseminater and under his name it says AI *B and LA 2004,2003.
Her sire's dam is SGCH Alpine-Valleys RHA Iola, and under her name it says 5*M AR2002, and LA 2006, 2004, and 2003.
Her Dam's sire is Waiilatpu HG Giovanni and under him it says +*B St2004, and LA 2005, 2004.
Her Dam's dam is udder paradise Dare to Dream, and there's nothing under her name.
So... What does all that mean? LOL
Also, she isn't tatooed but there is a tatto shown on her registration papers. She has black skin... What type of ink should I use... Green or white? What does both of those look like on dark skin; Does anyone have any photos of tattos on dark skin/light skin that I can see? I want to tatoo my entire herd when I get the minis registered too...
Also, I would like to get a herd name in the future because I plan on getting into dairy goats... what's the difference between the herd name reistration and the permanant one?
Oh, wow. This all looks confusing. I want to be a member, get a herd name... What else do I need to do? LOL
Never registered goats before, and the miniatures will be super easy to register!
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Dona Barski
"Breed the best, eat the rest"
Caprice Acres
French and American Alpines. CAE, Johnes neg herd. Abscess free. LA, DHIR.
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10/25/06, 07:18 PM
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Oh, and also, what is the buyer ID? LOL so confused!
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Dona Barski
"Breed the best, eat the rest"
Caprice Acres
French and American Alpines. CAE, Johnes neg herd. Abscess free. LA, DHIR.
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10/25/06, 07:28 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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*B means the buck's parents have met certain milk production requirements using offical tests.
*M means the doe has made at least 1,500 lbs of milk on official test (AR) or made a certain amount of milk & butterfat on a one-day test (ST). the number before the *M stands for how many maternal generations have gotten a *M.
LA means linear appraisal- an expericenced, specially trained judge rates heritable characteristics of a goat on a numerical scale and also gives other parts a letter category. E (Excellent) is the highest grade, then V (Very Good) + (Good Plus) A (Acceptable) F (Fair) and P (poor) and a final score of 100 to 60. Scores above 90 are rare. ADGA has a booklet with drawings and explanations. You can have a member look up scores on the ADGA members only website or call the ADGA office to get the scores.
The +B is earned through the buck's daughters and sons. He can earn a + by having 3 daughters with different mothers earn a *M or by having two sons that each earn a + through their daughters. A buck that is a ++ has earned one with sons and one with daughters.
CH is a permanent championship earned by getting best in breed at 3 different shows with 3 different judges. 2 have to be as a doe in milk and they have to beat a certain amount of other does. GCH means a permanent champion plus a *M. or a + for a buck.
SG is Superior Genetics. A doe has to have an official milk record and a Linear Appraisal and then be in the top 15% of her breed calculated from those values. SGCH is Superior Genetics and a GCH from showing.
The year means the year they earned their designations. So your doe comes from some nice stock!
Have to go to work now- someone else will jump in with herd names/tattoos?
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10/25/06, 07:47 PM
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Wondering... If I tried to take some nice pictures (Though I don't know how to pose them for show), could some people jump in and tell me her faults/good points and what I should look for in a buck for her? Wish she was in mik right now... LOL
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Dona Barski
"Breed the best, eat the rest"
Caprice Acres
French and American Alpines. CAE, Johnes neg herd. Abscess free. LA, DHIR.
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10/25/06, 09:02 PM
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www.HarperHillFarm.com
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Here's a link to her pedigree. http://www.adgagenetics.org/DoeDetai...ber=A001331850
You'll also find within the ADGA site, explanations for all the bells & whistles attached to the names.
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10/26/06, 08:35 AM
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10/26/06, 12:34 PM
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As far as the herd names, you have to be an ADGA member first. Once you have registered a herd name, all animals that you breed will have that herd name and noone else can use it. You don't *have* to register a herd name, but then someone else can use it and it will have "The" in front of the animal's name.
The ADGA website has a herd name search. You can't use a herd name that's already registered so you can make sure you're not asking for someone else's.
The permanent herd name means that nobody can ever use that herd name if you stop using it. Otherwise, the herd name reverts back to public use after ten years of non-use.
Also, you may enjoy this little family album:
http://www.biogenicsltd.com/a140.html
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10/26/06, 12:49 PM
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ohmygosh! I want our boer registries to have the same capabilities as the ADGA! Wow, what great information! I wish we had the conformation guiding system that they have!
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10/26/06, 01:55 PM
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www.BilriteFarms.com
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Originally Posted by mygoat
Her Dam's sire is Waiilatpu HG Giovanni and under him it says +*B St2004, and LA 2005, 2004.
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We have a buck out of Giovanni. His 1st daughters freshened this year. I'm guessing your does lines may be similar to a couple of our does lines too.
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10/26/06, 07:13 PM
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Caprice Acres
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Originally Posted by AnnaS
As far as the herd names, you have to be an ADGA member first. Once you have registered a herd name, all animals that you breed will have that herd name and noone else can use it. You don't *have* to register a herd name, but then someone else can use it and it will have "The" in front of the animal's name.
The ADGA website has a herd name search. You can't use a herd name that's already registered so you can make sure you're not asking for someone else's.
The permanent herd name means that nobody can ever use that herd name if you stop using it. Otherwise, the herd name reverts back to public use after ten years of non-use.
Also, you may enjoy this little family album:
http://www.biogenicsltd.com/a140.html
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Ok that clears up alot...
Well then I guess I won't be needing a 'permanent' herd name...
Also, you may be surprised to know that, that "inseminater" buck is owned by the man I was intending to call about stud service soon! LOL Lloyd Allen, who, as I understand, lives about a 1/2 hour away from me!
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Dona Barski
"Breed the best, eat the rest"
Caprice Acres
French and American Alpines. CAE, Johnes neg herd. Abscess free. LA, DHIR.
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