Disbudded? Pictures

[lijj]

I don't think of few of these kids' horns are disbudded... because they are growing... The vet came out probably a month ago. The one kid's horns just started bleeding, I think the vet did hers the best because there is no horn, like these other ones. What do you think?

This is the wether:
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/3482/p7270003hr4.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/6505/p7270010ek1.jpg

the one doeling, whose one horn is growing forward...
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/62/p7270004ad0.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/214dxkl.jpg

another doeling
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9279/p7270008wa2.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6169/p7270015te5.jpg

the doeling who was bleeding
http://i7.tinypic.com/214e0w5.jpg

[TexCountryWoman]

The wether and the first doeling have full horns, they don't even look like they were disbudded.

The second doeling has bad scurs which will only get worse,

The bleeding doeling aslo has scurs.

None were disbudded correctly...sorry.

Their heads should be completely smooth and round and the hair should be able to grow over it like they were born with no horns.

[lijj]

What exactly are scurs? And what should I do for them?

Thank you mrs. vet...

[TexCountryWoman]

Scurs are deformed peices of horn that are growing up out of the head. They will continue to grow and be knocked off by other goats and bleed and cause problems. The small ones can be burns again, by a DIFFERENT vet...the larger horns will need to be banded or surgically removed after fly season or left alone (but then you have a goat with horns!)

[lijj]

Do you use those little tiny green bands?

Is it ok to band them now? They are just under 2 months old.

oh, and the last doeling doesn't have horns, hers were just bleeding... she still has scurs?

[topside1]

You really should ask for a refund for obvious reasons. All you need to do is send her the photos and ask for your money back. Maybe the Vet should look into a new career path....Tennessee John

[goat^farmer]

Originally Posted by lijj

I don't think of few of these kids' horns are disbudded... because they are growing... The vet came out probably a month ago. The one kid's horns just started bleeding, I think the vet did hers the best because there is no horn, like these other ones. What do you think?

This is the wether:
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/3482/p7270003hr4.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/6505/p7270010ek1.jpg

the one doeling, whose one horn is growing forward...
http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/62/p7270004ad0.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/214dxkl.jpg

another doeling
http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/9279/p7270008wa2.jpg
http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/6169/p7270015te5.jpg

the doeling who was bleeding
http://i7.tinypic.com/214e0w5.jpg

On the scurs you need to ither get them taken off or keep watch on them because some goats will get scurs no matter what. It's not the vet fault at all. Just some goats are bad then others to have scurs. When to really get worried about scurs is if they start to grow into the goats head or start having other problems. Some people get rid of scurs by banning them. Most of goats I have all have scurs an I haven't dared to mess with them because not causing no problems so far.

[trob1]

It's not the vet fault at all. Just some goats are bad then others to have scurs.

You know one out of 4 I would say this but 3 out of 4 disbudded that incorrectly I would say it is the vet or who ever disbudded thems fault and I sure would ask for a refund or a correction of the lousy disbudding job. We disbudded 3 goats this spring ourselves and the first one was awfull. We had a less expensive iron and it didnt work well at all. So we invested in a reinhart 40 with the pygmy/nigerian tip and boy that thing is worth its weight in gold. I would find someone else for your next batch of babies needing disbudding or learn all you can and try it yourself.

[lacesout]

I would tend to agree with goat-farmer. I have four Nigerian bucklings. All from different breeders (what can I say, I love bucks..) and all four have scurs. One kid went to the vet and had the scurs surgically removed under anesthesia. Guess what ... he is a yearling now and has scurs. I have heard that Nigerians are especially prone to scurs. Right now I am livin' with them though I HATE them.

Lynn in Mesa County, CO

[kidsngarden]

Originally Posted by lijj

Can you band them using the regular little tiny green rubber bands that are used to castrate? (http://www.springcreekgoatsupplies.com/219A.jpg)

I would like to know this too. Two of my goats have scurs that are about 1 inch or so - so I should band them in the fall, right?

kids

[Patty0315]

I would probally wait for them to grow more. I have never used bands on a goat under about 1 year of age. The green bands work great then.

Patty

[lijj]

The thing is, I'm going to be selling them in another month and a half. ..

[suzyhomemaker09]

When I had my very 1st goat disbudded by a vet..he developed pretty nasty scurs...called the vet to ask about it and her reply was " sometimes that happens..bring him back and we'll get him fixed up"..no extra charges..just teh flat $20 i paid at the first trip.

[chma4]

I have 13 Nigerians. NONE of my does heve scurs. Both of my bucks (that I bought disbudded) DO have scurs. I had MY vet do the three little bucklings i had born this year, and NONE of them are growing scurs. I think that for sure bucks are harder to disbud, but IF done RIGHT and WELL they will NOT grow scurs.
I was told to take bolt cutters and keep the scurs short so they dont break, but Im a wimp and live with the stupid scurs. My one dominant buck (herd sire) has knocked both off at one time or another. It was a bloody mess, but they just grew right back again!?!?!?