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Old 06/21/06, 09:30 PM
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I need to find some very helpful links of were to maybe order some frozen sperm to be able to AI my goats. I have heard it is very high to have it shipped but I like to find a place that will give me the total cost before I decide to order it. I went to one place and they wanted me to order it before giving me the total. Can anyone help. I have 4 does I want to breed but need information on were is the best company to be able to get the sperm from a really great buck.

Thanks for any help you all can provide me..

I have a closed herd and do not want to bring in any bucks or other goats that could be carring dieseases such as CL. That is one reason why no bucks here at this time. Hard to find a really good breeder that has bucks for sale that has a closed herd that is disease proof.
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Old 06/21/06, 10:12 PM
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You can find disease free bucks from reputable herds. Ask for referrals from people here, read up in the UCN and Dairy Goat Journal papers, etc. Insist on proof (negatiev test results) rather than taking their word for it. Such a buck won't be cheap, but he will be worth it if your herd is valuble to you.

A.I.:

Firstly, when I got into A.I. I didn't quite understand this, but a regular freezer isn't sufficient to store the semen. It has to be kept at -300 degrees or thereabouts. You will need a nitrogen tank, with liquid nitrogen to do this. I got my tank used for about $200, and it costs a little more than $100 a year to have it serviced regularly.

Also, you almost have to have a buck around to be successful at A.I., unless all your does are supremely good A.I. candidates and extremely easy to detect heat in, and you don't mind if they don't all get settled every year. I have yet to meet anyone who has a 100% success rate on A.I., particularly without a buck to assist in bringing them into a rip-roaring heat. It can be a little buck kid from the spring, or a pygmy that you'll never breed to, as long as he's smelly.

Places to buy Semen:

Biogenics: I won't do business with these people. I don't like them, and the product is very high priced.

Frozen Assets (Karen Lewis): This lady is extremely nice, the semen I've bought from her was viable, and the prices are good. Selection is good.

Buck Bank: I bought my A.I. kit from this lady, and it seemed like it took her forever to send it to me!! If you can, I recommend buying from her in person. She is nice, and the semen I bought from her, while it tended to be older bucks and not cutting edge stuff, was viable.

I don't think Magnum Semen Works is in business anymore.

A.1. is another company....I don't remember much about them except that they were the only peopel I could have bought Sodium Oaks Sasin from, and I didn't discover this sad fact until after I'd already blown ALL my money! They had very good selection.

You don't have to buy from a company, many breeders have tanks and will sell just a few straws of what they have. You can ask on your district or breed list on the yahoo groups, or inquire from reputable, top name breeders in your area. What breed do you have, and in what area?

Lastly, unless you are already experienced in A.I. or are blessed to have soemone who is doing the actual breeding for you, buy inexpensive semen to start with. It doesn't have to be poor quality, just not the most recent flash-in-the-pan $100 a straw because his mom was first in her class at the Nationals this year stuff. Often the bucks who are proven and were cutting edge ten years ago but just aren't as exciting anymore for that reason are more affordable and reliable. My two cents.
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Old 06/21/06, 10:24 PM
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Where we live at there isn't many trusted people to use a buck for breeding. I have someone that can AI my does but I first want to see how much the sperm would cost. Most of the people around here wants to just raise goats for meat and that is it. Lots of people around here also do not take great pride in their goats and the care. My goats are my pride and joy plus family help.

I know about the tanks that cost from 450 on up to have the sperm kept in plus you have to have it filled up and buy all the supplies but my friend already has the supplies but I need to be able to buy the sperm to be able to use for my does.

I may later consider buying a buck but I will have to go out of the state to get one and will get a buck from a closed herd or were someone has had their goats tested for diseases and I will look at the papers before I buy one. Yes I know I'm very strict on certain things.

Better safe than sorry.
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Old 06/22/06, 05:38 AM
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Try www.semensisters.com You can rent their shipper for $45 PLUS you pay for the actual FedEx which can run $100+ because of weight, you'd have to call the shipping agency.
Their prices are very reasonable and most of it is from good, proven bucks.
Don't know how far you are from Charleston- they are located there and offer pickup at the farm too.
Join the yahoo groups for your breed and ADGA district too. There are always for sale ads and you could post a wanted ad.
A lot of people arrange to pick up semen at shows, Nationals, or the national ADGA Convention. I think all the A.i. vendors offer this as an option.
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Old 06/22/06, 10:16 AM
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i bought from biogenetics before and have had good experience with them. very nice friendly people. if you go to their website you can find the price for semen
http://www.biogenicsltd.com/index.html

superior semen works is another website to get info on prices. didn't deal with them yet but if you call them i'm sure they will give you quotes first.
http://www.superiorsemenworks.com/xcart/home.php

i would not do A.I. without having a buck for live covering if the A.I. did not take. for a beginner heat detection can also be tricky sometimes.
in the long run it would be more economly to have your own buck.
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