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05/10/06, 10:43 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: California, Bay Area
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Meat Goat feed outrage
just so everybody knows, if you are feeding your meat goats " Land 'O Lakes N'timidator" grain, there are "animal protein products" in it, and we found out what those 'products' are. pig blood and ground-up whole fish!!!!!
feeding the cows animal protein products was mainly what caused the mad cow scare, so why are people putting the same stuff into goat food?
has anybody else had a problem with this?
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05/10/06, 10:47 PM
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The vet we got our meat goat from said to never feed them Purina Goat Chow (which we have been) because they put all sorts of crap in it. I would have to ask my husband but I think the vet said they also put "animal protien" in the Purina. Yuck! We switched to a local feed that the vet recommended.
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05/10/06, 11:16 PM
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I don't use any of the 'goat grain' products for just that reason -- you have no way of knowing what's actually in it (I don't want my goats eating soy products, either, and that's usually where most of the protein comes from). If you can feed alfalfa hay (for the protein and calcium), your goats will do just fine on rolled or cracked grains such as corn, oats, and barley (COB). Just make sure they have loose goat mineral also available.
Kathleen
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05/11/06, 08:27 AM
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Meat goats eating Meat Goat rations must be very expensive. We prefer to let our meat goats eat hay and browse when available. In the winter we give some minimal grain (oats), but otherwise, I could not afford to raise them if I had to buy food for them.
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05/11/06, 09:32 AM
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Wow! I recently switched to Purina Goat Chow, thinking my goats would get more 'nutrition' from it. 
Kathleen: COB--do you just tell them at the feed mill that you want rolled corn, oats and barley mixed? Thanks for your help, Maggie
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05/11/06, 09:51 AM
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I have a couple of goats that just like BOSS and cracked corn mixed half and half Sometimes a handful of calf manna ....I drop the manna as I start drying off
I'll be checking my 16% animal feed label 
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05/11/06, 10:42 AM
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Ruminants don't need animal proteins, but they do need proteins. As others have mentioned, soybeans are a good source as are ALL Legumes. Alfalfa, Peas, Clover are all good sources of protein. Grains are neutral in protein at around 11%. Peas are somewhere around 25%, Alfalfa around 20% etc. You can mix your own feed using grains, oilseeds like Flax and some legumes. It will be a lot cheaper too.
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05/11/06, 10:53 AM
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I use Blue Seal Caprine Challenger. I started using it for the dairy goats, and haven't seen a reason to buy a different feed for the meat goats.
Ruth
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05/11/06, 10:58 AM
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We have just recently switched to using our own feed recipe after my husband had looked at the ingredients on the packaged feed. Now our feed is free of animals by products.
Heather
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05/11/06, 02:28 PM
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Very widely practiced, mainly due to the chase of the almighty dollar. Also legal as long as ruminants aren't fed to ruminants, I think.
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05/11/06, 04:35 PM
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I don't know about other places, but here we just ask for COB at the feedstore -- they already have it mixed. I could also go to just straight oats or barley -- I wouldn't go to straight corn. We also have the choice of 'wet' (with molasses), or 'dry' (without molasses) COB.
I do NOT like to use soy for the protein source for my goats or anything else, including people. Soy is one 'food' that is actually a byproduct of a plant originally grown only as a green manure crop, and the big corporations decided they wanted to make some money on what had just been getting plowed into the ground. So they hired some researchers and started pushing soy this and soy that, and people swallowed it. All real foods have government approval (FDA), called something like 'generally considered safe' (not the exact wording, but I'm at work, and don't have time to look up the website) -- anyway, soy does NOT have that rating. Alfalfa and other legumes are a good protein source, though you do have to be aware of Red Clover disease, which can be caused by other legumes besides red clover. There are other plant sources of proteins -- some weeds are much higher in protein than even alfalfa.
I don't believe that any goat NEEDS the special 'goat pellets' -- it's just another way for the feed companies to make more money off of you!
Kathleen
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