Ivomec / the miracle wormer???

[Lynnette]

I posted the following thread on the pets board, but I am also considering using it to worm my goats, as I have been told that you shoudn't use the same wormer all the time as the parasites will become immune to it. I am wondering if I really can use one product for dogs and goats. The benefits of the Ivomec outweigh the benefits of my current goat wormer.

Has anyone used this on their dogs? My girlfriend has used it for her dogs for a couple of years based on her neighbor using it for the dogs that he breeds. She says it is a lot easier and cheaper and I have to agree. Between the Frontline and the Heartguard, my dogs are costing me a bunch more money in the Spring/Summer months. I don't want them to be without protection from fleas, ticks, heartworm, etc. but cheaper is better, that is, if it is effective. The Ivomec Plus Cattle and Swine wormer seems like it would be of great benefit, I am hoping I can get info from somone else who has used it.

[marvella]

i use it been using it on all my critters, except the chihuahua, rabbits and the cats (because the dosage is too small to figure out.)

it doesn't protect against fleas or ticks, but after a negative heartworm test, will prevent heartworm if used regularly. that's a big savings. i still use advantage for fleas and ticks. nothing else works as well.

on my vets advise, i only worm quarterly. i have 6 dogs, 2 pb pigs, and 7 goats that get it. no problems at this time.

[homebirtha]

Isn't Ivomec the one that is dangerous for dogs in the shepherd family, i.e. Aussies, Border Collies, etc.????

I didn't realize it would prevent heartworm. Tell me more.

[Lynnette]

Thanks for the info

I have heard that it is dangerous for collies, not sure why. I found a posting about it under the wormer sticky on the pet forum.

Not being argumentative, just curious. I am pretty sure when I went to the Ivomec site it said that the Plus formula also worked to repel external parasites, would this not include fleas and ticks? Also, my girlfriend who initially told me about it, stopped using spot on flea treatments for her dogs and used the Ivomec, and has had great success.

My husband is diabetic, so I already have small syringes, could I just inject the Ivomec into a soft meaty treat and give it to them that way. My dogs see a syringe and they want nothing to do with it, regardless of the taste, my girlfriend uses fruit juice in lieu of the maple syrup.

[poorfarmer]

I have used Ivomec for years on dogs I gave 1cc to them my Vet. told me to cut it down to 1/2 cc for dogs but he believe it work and stop them from getting heart worms and he siad you have to take them off of it in the winter so that the wormers do not build up againest it. I do of a dog that was on it that still got hook worms.

[marvella]

yes, it does work on heartworm. just make SURE you get a negative heartworm test first. if you don't, and the dog has a hidden case of heartworm, it could kill him.

all i can tell you is that ivermectin hasn't worked to prevent fleas and ticks in my animals. i still use frontline for that.

get the kind that is meant for injections, but give it orally, hidden in some food they really like. i just squirt it on to their daily feed ration and they eat it right up. they are used to dry food, so if one of them is being stubborn i just open a can of wet food, and give them a couple spoonfuls with the medicine mixed in.

[harplade]

we had a blue heeler and were told to definitely not use this wormer on them.. I talked with someone who had used it on her heeler for years. I think the deal is...if they are allergic to it, the Ivermectin will kill them quickly, if not, they can tolerate it. But who wants to play Russian Roulette with their dog?

[fricknfarm]

I use ivermectin too. Six German shorthairs one chihuahua, one tiny Heinz, 30+ goats/kids and 4 sheep, and of course one horse. Ages range from 13 on down and no problems.
I have been using "Biospot" on my dogs, a lot cheaper than Frontline etc. and it seems to work well for me. You can buy it online, www.upco.com
I buy a lot from this company and they usually have very good prices, process and ship orders fast too. that Biospot has a pleasant citrus smell too.
Get ready, the ticks are already murder this year. I don't usually treat my dogs til June, this year I had to do it already.

[dbarjacres]

Ivermectin is extremely deadly to any dog that is a collie or had collie blood. They also include any "collie type" dog that has a collie color pattern - like the white neck marking.

Dosage for a dog is 1cc/100 lbs. A 50 lb dog would get 1/2 cc, 10 lb, 1/10th cc. Diabetic needles do work great. That's what we've been using to deworm our german shepherds for 7 years now. We do not use it tho on our Aussie or cavaliers. Oh, and overdosage is common and easy to do. I accidently overdosed our barn cats this last fall (put enough for all the cats in soft food and 4 stupid 6 month old kittens ate it all). They act like they are completely stoned - see imaginary things they swat at, go temporarily blind, and one was even in a coma for 3 days! One attacked me when I picked it up, I thought it had rabies as it was all foamed up and crazy, but then I saw the others, called the vet, and figured it out real fast, but still kept them confined for 2 weeks to be sure. They are all healthy, it's a miracle none died.

But I would only use straight ivermectin. The ivomec Plus has another drug in it. I don't know if that would hurt other animals or not. I don't even give that to my goats.

It does not kill fleas or ticks I don't think. Altho it may once they bite the animal and get it in the blood. It does kill lice on livestock, so that's a big possibility, but I know it wouldn't repel them, they'd feed on the animal yet. It is used to treat mange. Had a dog a few years back go up into the woods and catch it from the fox den he was sniffing around by. That's what we were told by the vet to give him, ivermectin. And it does work for heartworm preventative.

[DayBird]

We use ivermectin for all of our mammals. After talking to many vets extensively, I've come to the conclusion that it is safe for everything we have (no collies).

We use the standard dose of 1cc / 100 pounds, .5cc / 50 pounds, .1cc / 10 pounds, .01cc / 1 pound.

We use this for intestinal worms in the goats, injected subQ. Heartworm preventative in the dogs given orally. Ear mites in the rabbits, given subQ (although one vet says to just put a "drop" into each ear.)

This is the medicine that saved our two nubians after they tested positive for meningial (deer) worms last summer. The medicated pellets nor the safeguard liquid prevented the infestation but the ivermectin cured it. Our little Suzanne will always be "special" because of what she went through, but her sister Julia just delivered the two beautiful doelings not long ago.

[burfer]

I have used ivermectin on my Chihuahuas for about 7 years now. I have never had a problem, it is the same drug that is in Heartguard. You just have to be careful with it. I also use it on my Great Dane, but I get Interceptor for my Border Collie. I think it has helped a little with the fleas, but I still use Advantage. It is TONS cheaper, just be careful with the dosage and make sure they don't eat each others "special" snack!

[happyladybug]

i have ivomec pour-on that i use on my cattle - can i use this on my goats??? or is it only the injectible kind???
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can i use it on pregnant goats???

thanks..

janis

[dkdairygoats]

Ivermectin is extremely deadly to any dog that is a collie or had collie blood. They also include any "collie type" dog that has a collie color pattern - like the white neck marking.

This is not completely true. Collies are more sensitive to ivermectin than other breeds, but if dosed correctly, it should not hurt them. Reason being, the blood-brain barrier is crossed easier in collies than other dogs, so higher concentrations reach the brain. The amount of ivermectin in Heartgaurd and other dog specific dewormers is not harmful.