Help, bloody Buck

[chma4]

Need help!!! My buck who was de-horned as a kid got spurs back in adulthood. To day he got in a butting match with my steer. Needless to say, he lost. One of his spurs broke and is bleeding everywhere. How do I treat? Do I use Pen G? How long? What do I need to supplement for digestion if I use Pen G? Should I pack the wound? What is best to use to disinfect the wound?

[mpillow]

Blood stop powder if you have.....if not cornstarch or flour...

If its real bad you may need to burn (cauterize?) the area again....

Keep clean with iodine, alcohol, hydrogen peroxide...then coat with bag balm...

He wont need penicillin unless it is infected....if he has lost alot of blood give him some pig paste....and probiotics

[Sher]

Hi, I'll try to help til someone more knowledgeable comes.

If it is bleeding profusely.. put pressure on it. If you have a black tea tea bag..stick it in a warm cup of water...take it out soon as it gets wet and put it on the bleeding point..apply pressure. The tea bag promotes clotting.

If you have hydrogen peroxide...you have alot. Saturate the wound. . wait for it to stop bubbling and do it again.

If you have tea tree oil...put some on the wound, but be very careful not to get it in his eyes. It will burn like fire when it goes on...but then will actually take alot of the pain away. Alot of grocery stores and pharmacies carry it.

I'm sure it will be painful for him. And if you have a spot where he could be by himself for a while..ya might think about putting him there, Just so he doesn't get that broke open and bleeding again right away.

Good luck...hope everything works out okay.

[chma4]

Okay,
I think Im gonna
Pour on some peroxide
Pack with corn stach
Give CDT
Give Ivermec (while Ive got him)
And Nutri Drench

Ill isolate him till he recovers and so I can keep an eye on him
Thanks for the advice.
If anyone sees a flaw in my plan, please advise!
Christina

[chma4]

oh yes, and probiotics

[chma4]

So THAT was fun =(. I caught him, locked his head between my knees and got to work. Of coarse, me being the moron I am, got bucked up and spilled the peroxide right in his eye. We flushed with water immmediately but I felt SOOOO bad. It was not a pretty sight. While I was working with him I noticed that all of his joints were making a clicking noise as he moved. He is only 2 yrs old. Anyone know what this could be????

[mpillow]

It could just be stress....rut and injuries are hard on bucks.....

My buck got his head stuck in the fence this weekend and nearly ripped off a scur too but I managed to wrestle him...back thru....I smelled heavenly after that

[Teacupliz]

Spray with blue coat.. No Pen G needed.. Liz

[chamoisee]

I would either leave it alone or lure him onto a stanchion or other holding device and reburn the area. This will both seal off the bleeding and help prevent regrowth of the scurs, depending on how thorough you are and how much horn tissue is there.

[Rachel K.]

Blood stop is all that is needed. You only need to stop the bleeding. I had a Wether get a horn knocked off about a year ago and I know 'all' about it.

[chamoisee]

Yeah, well.... Look, I've coped with so many broken bloody spurs (in part due to insufficient voltage to the dehornin iron from our solar system) as well as removing actual horns, that I've pretty much lost count. If I had to make an educated guess, it'd be at least 40-50 animals....and that is conservative (no, I am not kidding).

Personally, I dislike the hassle, pain, and trauma of scurs. Nearly all of them grow back if the area is not burned. You sort of have to decide whether it is something that you want to continue dealing with or not.

The other thing to consider with scurs is that an animal who has had a lot of trauma in this area is going to be at a higher risk of losing status in the herd, losing weight due to reluctance to stick his or her sore head into the feeder, they sometimes get shy abotu putting their head into a milking stand, and they often get very head shy and do not want their heads touched at all. Then there is the issue of CAE transmission from the blood all over the place.....

[Starsmom]

My 5 month old buck developed his scurs a couple months after disbudding. I tried to keep up with them by trimming them every week. A few weeks ago I got hold of the thickest scur (he has two - one real thick and one thin) and was about to nip it off and he jumped and when he did, the whole scur just popped right out of his head. He bled and screamed...you'd thought I killed him. I just put some blood stop and some triple antibiotic on it and it healed fine...The scur is back. I'm gonna give up and take him to my vet and have them removed. It took 3 days before he forgave me for ripping out his horn.