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02/07/14, 01:24 PM
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4 y/o Jersey with persistent loose stool HELP
Clover, our 4 y/o, hopefully-bred Jersey, has had an awful winter. Dropped all her weight, looks like a skeleton. Fecal test negative for parasites. Eating and drinking normally. Tried everything for her VERY loose, normal-cloured stool. Not diarrhea, but sloppy. Thankfully, it is not constant. Just put her on NeoMed powder (4 tsp/day in warm H2o) on Tuesday. I don't want to test for Johnes, besides, her stool is normal coloured, plus I know her dam's owner & never heard of issues with this. Any suggestions? She is kept in our barn with her weaned calf for company since our winter has been unusually severe> Thanks ahead of time for any advice.
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02/07/14, 02:04 PM
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Why don't you want to test for Johne's?
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02/07/14, 02:34 PM
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I would strongly urge you to test for Johnes (I never heard of manure color being any way to detect this).
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02/07/14, 02:37 PM
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I would definetly have her tested for Johne's. Unfortunately sounds like it could be it. We had it in our goat herd years ago. Got out of goats, waited a few years and got cows. Tragic, but sounds like a possibilty. Gradual loss of condition with cronic loose stools that get softer and softer over time. Good appetite and bright spirits, they just waste away happily.....So sad....
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02/07/14, 02:37 PM
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What are you feeding her?
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02/07/14, 03:35 PM
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Thanks everyone. I have since spoken to the fellow I bought her from & learned he had a suspected case of Johnes 15 yrs ago. I will go ahead & test for the sake of my other cow & heifer calf who share space with her. As to feed, she is a on a full ration beef extender pellet with about 13% protein (about 5#, 2x a day), mixed grass hay (ours, fair quality) & free choice water. She also gets a brood cow mineral. Her grain appetite is diminished today, but she is eating hay happily. If she has Johnes, then I have to test her herdmates, right? *sigh*
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02/07/14, 03:37 PM
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By the way, MCJAM, did you have to wait a few years between dairy herds because of the disease? My vet says it is only maternally transferred, but I have read that it also transmits via manure to other calves. Whom to believe?
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02/07/14, 03:53 PM
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It lives in the ground for years after you have an effected animal living on your farm. Goats, sheep, and cows can get it. It is spread through manure.
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02/09/14, 11:52 AM
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Fecal test or blood test? either one, will only show Johnes while sheding the disease. So. a one time test that shows negative is not conclusive. Ask your Vet.
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02/09/14, 12:07 PM
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Just a thought, stop feeding beef pellets. Just give good grass hay. All she wants with plenty of water. OF course you will want to test now that the suspicion is out there but I would stop the beef pellets first.
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02/10/14, 06:10 PM
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After much research, I found a mix of first and second cut grass hay keeps my heifers poohs somewhere pie plop like. If I go with all second cut it is really liquid, all first cut and it has lots of texture but she looses weight. So, a mixture it is with a mineral mix. I would check out the johnnes, too. My vet discounted it as my girl was kind of young. I still keep an eye on her as that is something I don't want!
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02/17/14, 01:55 PM
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Yes, We waited several years because as I understand it, Johne's is transmitted from the manure of an infected animal to immature (under 6 months old) ruminants. The Johne's pathogens can live in the soil for over 1 year waiting to infect the next victim. That was about 15 years ago, and we have had no problems since.
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04/04/14, 11:57 AM
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Just wondering if there is any update on Clover?
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01/01/15, 08:42 PM
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Thanks for helpful advice last winter; Clover passed. ;(
Thanks all (1 year later!) Yes, it was Johnnes & BVD. Turns out that her past owner HAD the disease at one time. I still have 2 other heifers & am trusting that they will be ok. Neither were her calves. Vet said that it is terribly common & to go on from here, but to test any cow that I might buy in the future. My advice: TEST YOUR COWS before purchasing & then test if you have suspicions. I am praying for a cure for this nasty disease!
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01/02/15, 07:43 AM
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So sorry to hear that she was positive. Both are bad problems. Your advice is good -- TEST!
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01/06/15, 07:32 PM
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I am sorry. Glad you updated, have wondered, hoped it was not what it turned out to be. I hope your other cattle are ok.
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