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09/05/12, 10:59 PM
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Location: Northern Saskatchewan
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Got accused of starving my bull *sigh*
Soooo I dont *think* I am starving him. He is my very first bull and I will admit that I am not really sure how he is supposed to look. I know most bulls I see are more muscled up but I dont know...he is a very small dexter. Not really sure if he is supposed to look any different.
Anyway I put him up for sale last night cause I am done with him and I thought "hey, wouldnt hurt to try and move him now before winter". So this is the exact picture I posted....
And this was an email I got about an hour after I posted it (copied and pasted)...
"The Bull in the picture looks awful thin even for a bull at the end of breeding season? Has the pasture or feed been so bad this Bull looks like this? Maybe try better pasture or feed more if not good pasture. Was looking for this type of bull but not one half starved. Thanks!!!"
Now..what?? huh? He hardly looks half starved to me. He isnt fat, but isnt that ok? I took this picture on a VERY hot day in july and we hadnt had rain for 3 weeks. Maybe he looks a bit off from that? I dont know. I honestly never even noticed his hip until she told me he was starving and I had to go back and look at the picture.
Anyway, the email made me pretty mad. Its like, why even bother replying if you are making it perfectly clear you dont want him anyway.
BUT!!!!!!!!!! I SOLD him this afternoon...well actually I am trading him for a heifer. That is a totally fair trade as far as I am concerned. I want more cows/heifers and I dont care how I get them. I can buy a new bull next summer. We are doing the trade on Sunday.
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09/05/12, 11:15 PM
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Well I don't know a whole lot about bulls, but if he was starved, wouldn't he act starved?
He seems ok. Congratulations on your successful trade.
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09/05/12, 11:18 PM
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LOOKS GOOD TO ME for a bull on pasture sure he could use a few pounds but also relize your pasture picture looks like he has nothing to eat but weeds.....with the draught in USA my pasture looks the same way......as i said looks good to me maybe she want a better price ... also I have heard of two people getting together with different last names ...one email your straving him to death next person email he is awlful thin but i would give less.....LOOKS GOOD TO ME
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09/06/12, 07:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jackie
Soooo I dont *think* I am starving him. He is my very first bull and I will admit that I am not really sure how he is supposed to look. I know most bulls I see are more muscled up but I dont know...he is a very small dexter. Not really sure if he is supposed to look any different.
Anyway I put him up for sale last night cause I am done with him and I thought "hey, wouldnt hurt to try and move him now before winter". So this is the exact picture I posted....
And this was an email I got about an hour after I posted it (copied and pasted)...
"The Bull in the picture looks awful thin even for a bull at the end of breeding season? Has the pasture or feed been so bad this Bull looks like this? Maybe try better pasture or feed more if not good pasture. Was looking for this type of bull but not one half starved. Thanks!!!"
Now..what?? huh? He hardly looks half starved to me. He isnt fat, but isnt that ok? I took this picture on a VERY hot day in july and we hadnt had rain for 3 weeks. Maybe he looks a bit off from that? I dont know. I honestly never even noticed his hip until she told me he was starving and I had to go back and look at the picture.
Anyway, the email made me pretty mad. Its like, why even bother replying if you are making it perfectly clear you dont want him anyway.
BUT!!!!!!!!!! I SOLD him this afternoon...well actually I am trading him for a heifer. That is a totally fair trade as far as I am concerned. I want more cows/heifers and I dont care how I get them. I can buy a new bull next summer. We are doing the trade on Sunday. |
Sounds to me it was an anonymous craigslist "expert" comment. No trail to the poster and likely a way to guilt you in some way to offer a much lower price or give him away.
Rule # 1, do not sell on craigslist. I'm just guessing that's where this comment came from.
Looks good to me as well. Congratulations on your pending trade.
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09/06/12, 07:15 AM
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I'm no expert but he sure looks good to me, plenty of muscle.
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09/06/12, 07:19 AM
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repeat post,sorry.
Last edited by unregistered168043; 09/06/12 at 07:38 AM.
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09/06/12, 08:10 AM
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He is a worker. He has wheels under him. Did he get the job done? How many did he have to cover? I would expect a bench setter to have a little more fat.
He may show a little tail head indicating a little loss of trim. He may just be thrifty and an easy keeper for someone.
He may also not have the genetics to make herd improvements in hind quarters, but on the plus side, he is nearly showing a large scrotal area suggesting potential breeding ability.
No expert here either. It is always too easy to judge someone elses stuff.
Starved? No.
Nice fence.
Thanks for posting.
Last edited by Bret; 09/06/12 at 09:02 AM.
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09/06/12, 08:42 AM
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I think your bull looks fine for the end of breeding season and lack of rain in your area. No ribs are showing, the backbone is not showing, he isn't "sunk" in at the chest. He could use a few lbs in the hip area, but he is definitely not skin and bones, not what I would even call a 4 on the scale. Also, the angle of the pic with the leg pulled forward changes the muscle definition, if you will notice the rippled muscle in the lower hip also indicates that the bull is in good shape.
If you want to show off muscle, look at how the QH halter people take photos of their stallions that are used for breeding. They generally take a hip shot standing towards the rear of the horse so that the hip/rear end is most noticeable. I don't know much about Dexters, having had Brangus, Angus and Santa Gertrudis cattle in the past, but I do know about skinny as I worked with a rescue service in Ga. for many years. You don't have skinny.
All in all, I think your bull looks fine and like others say, someone appears to have wanted either a "cheaper" bull or you got yourself an armchair expert there. In any event, just dismiss the comment and go about your business.
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09/06/12, 09:13 AM
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Bull is fine. Emailer is an idiot. Send them a link to this thread.
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09/06/12, 09:20 AM
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I agree that bull is fine.
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09/06/12, 09:41 AM
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Yup I think the bull is fine too.
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09/06/12, 09:45 AM
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He looks 'normal' to me, looks like our Angus and Hereford bulls looked when they were out on summer pasture in Montana. You don't WANT bulls 'show fat' ... fat bulls are not as active, don't cover as many cows so don't produce as many calves and bulls that stay in 'working weight'.
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09/06/12, 09:47 AM
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Agree. He looks like most bulls who've been running with cows and working for a living. Any bull who's butter fat this time of year may not have been earning his keep. ;-)
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09/06/12, 10:49 AM
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Wow! I think he looks gorgeous! Lovely animal, good luck with your heifer.
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09/06/12, 11:07 AM
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Thanks guys. I only have 4 cows but he does what he is supposed to do. I got some lovely calves this year from him. Someone else just called me wanting to buy him so he must look ok to some people.
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09/06/12, 02:53 PM
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He's fine. Ribs are very well covered, spine is well covered.
He is scrawny in the butt, but I suspect that is his conformation, not lack of fat. He's got a milk cow rear end on him.
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09/06/12, 04:07 PM
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Tell Him He needs glasses or put them on! He looks to be 3 to 4 yrs old.
still a young bull.
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09/06/12, 05:21 PM
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I think he looks great. His ribs don't show. His neck is so muscled. He looks good. He is not starving at all.
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09/06/12, 07:46 PM
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Most people have the concept that a bull should be as fat as a pig on slop. Most people think...not on here of course.......that if it ain't fat it ain't no good.
Studies have shown that Bulls fattened too much early in life are less fertile.
Grass fed bulls as a rule are more fertile than cornfed bulls.
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09/06/12, 09:51 PM
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U bin
Had by a craigslist Troll in my opinion.
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