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04/24/12, 07:32 PM
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Pregnant jersey with bloat
My 3 year old jersey cow is bloated. She is vomiting. It is gassy bloat. Vet out of town until tomorrow. Can get gas out with 14ga needle. What can I give her? Can't get tube down throat. Can I give her something directly into her rumen like baking soda? Or should we just keep trying to relieve the gas pressure with the needle since she can't burp without vomiting?
Any help is appreciated.
Shannon
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04/24/12, 09:30 PM
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Dariy Calf Raiser
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needle will never get enough out to do any good make sure she is setting up
and Mineral oil is the best but you will need to get the tube down her throat to do any good....put a piece of steel pipe ain moiuth and run hose thought that stand on her left side and run hose down the right side of mounth 6 oz of ineral oil adding 6 every hour till she gets ride of bloat
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04/24/12, 09:49 PM
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With the tube I couldn't get past esophagus. Vet said it probably was because of too much gas. She is sitting up not flat out. Mooing. In pain has moved around.
Will the steel tube get past the esophagus or will I damage that?
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04/24/12, 09:59 PM
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Dariy Calf Raiser
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steel tube 5 inches long only goes in mouth so she can not clamp down with teeth on hose and stop you from pushing it on down
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04/24/12, 10:36 PM
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Will try it. Finding steel tube now.
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04/25/12, 12:00 AM
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Dariy Calf Raiser
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did it work ?
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04/25/12, 01:47 AM
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Got it 2 feet in then she puked. Pulled it out then she wouldn't let us try again.
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04/25/12, 02:17 AM
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So when they milked her tonight, my husband and oldest daughter said she wasn't as big. Still acting out of sorts and they didn't give her grain. We milked her because even with bloat I couldn't imagine a full hard udder.... So I just got up and asked hubby to check on her. He said she looked smaller and had pooped. She also is burping but not chewing cud. Her rumen is moving some. Only thing I got in her were some squirts of ginger and water and we had punctured her rumen earlier with the needle in a few spots since a jersey cow is harder to keep totally still than a 2 week old lamb.
Still will be up lots worrying tonight but I really hope she makes it. We have only had her since the beginning of march. We have had our other jersey for 3.5 years and our Holstein since October. Never seen a cow puke before.
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04/25/12, 06:59 AM
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Never seen a cow puke before.
me either ..your the one that said bloat I am wondering if it is a swisted gut or something else but you know for sure she pooped......
never heard of ginger either for bloat I only use mineral oil the 2 cases I have had
hope she makes it also
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04/25/12, 07:11 AM
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Definitely bloat. Seen it in enough other animals. Lots of gas came out when we had punctured the rumen with the needle. She is still alive. Drank some water. I am sure she has a sore throat.
She was definitely puking. Not just losing her cud. She had been frothing at the mouth and nose as well. She might have gotten into something poisonous. Her left side was twice the size it normally was and if you tapped on it you could hear the air.
Won't think we are out of the woods until I see her eat and chew cud.
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04/25/12, 07:29 AM
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She is nibbling hay right now. Our dairy cows are in our yard. There isn't that much grass growing yet, due to still getting snow. Lol! So it's not like she was put on rich pasture. I asked the kids if they had given her anything like a whole apple or something that could have gotten stuck. This cow is like a dog. She will run with us and I am sure if we let her she would come in the house. She will even lick your face if you aren't paying attention.
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04/25/12, 07:43 AM
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is she standing up now ?
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04/25/12, 07:57 AM
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Yep she was standing and followed me for a bit. Drank a gallon of water. She just laid back down but was up for at least 40 minutes.
I had read about giving ginger and water for bloat in lambs. I have done that numerous times and it worked on them. Don't know if it helped her but I know she swallowed some. I mixed some up and used a 20ml syringe to get some in her mouth. Sometimes most just got all over me.
We are those weird farmers that use herbs and stuff on our animals. I will use other medicines but only in extreme cases like my ewe with ringwomb and c-section. So far she has been the only ewe that has lived for this vet after ringwomb and a dead baby. We did everything else the other people had but I also used herbs in conjunction. Is that what made the difference???? Who knows, but my ewe is now almost 4 weeks post surgery and cavorting with the 3 month old lambs.... Lol!
For my cow I will start giving her some safe herbs to help with infection from puncturing her rumen. Plus I might get some probiotics in to just help with her gut flora.
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04/25/12, 08:04 AM
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If she would follow a feed bucket ..I would take her for a long walk...would not let her eat much feed a bite or two to keep her walking... but a long walk would really help her
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04/25/12, 08:07 AM
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I will do that. Thanks for the advice! I appreciate all of it.
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04/25/12, 11:00 PM
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Definetely walk her, halter led or coaxing with grain as myers said. Also, you may want to check the hay bale she was fed from for signs mold (visual or heat in center of bail). Hope to hear she is better soon.
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04/26/12, 08:07 PM
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Not sure about on animals but on humans ginger is good to help with gas. So I am guessing that is the thought on the ginger?
Hope your girl is going better now!
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