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04/24/12, 03:04 PM
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Will cattle prices fall because of the mad cow disease in Ca?
Do you think the demand will fall for beef with the case in California? And subsequently the prices?
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04/24/12, 04:28 PM
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It already dropped the limit today.
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04/24/12, 05:02 PM
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Oh, that couldn't come at a worse time! We just got U.S. beef back into some countries, now they have an excuse to reject it again. Exports have been a big factor in the good prices the producers have been getting.
I guess the feeders and packers are going to take a bath on this. They already have high-priced cattle in the pipeline, if prices drop too much too fast they stand to lose the most. Buy high, sell low doesn't keep you in business very long, ya know?
I read somewhere that one packing plant already shut down and let go 650 workers from the "pink slime" deal.
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04/24/12, 08:02 PM
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In Remembrance
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Finally an unbiased article which admits researchers really don't know what causes MCD.
Likely has been around for a long time, just called 'staggers'.
My theory is those who get vCJD would have gotten regular CDJ when they were older anyway.
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04/24/12, 09:32 PM
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Ken exactly a old man told me once about BLIND STAGGERS in horses...said a few cows acted the same way back in his day
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04/25/12, 07:05 AM
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In Remembrance
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"Staggers" was thought to happen when an animal drank water infected with some type of parasite which then went in and damaged their brain.
How many dead cows have been hauled up into the woods to rot with little concern as to how they died?
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04/25/12, 07:12 AM
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Boy , oh boy, I`m glad I don`t have a yard full of feeders, going to take it in the shorts I`m afraid after this. I don`t think anyone has anything to worry about with the beef in the USA, I think we have about the safest meat in the world.(other than pink slim maybe) > Thanks Marc
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04/25/12, 08:13 AM
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Dariy Calf Raiser
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04/25/12, 08:41 AM
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Other countries can shop for beef anywhere they want. Even with assurances that the beef is safe, they may choose elsewhere.
Loss of a sizeable portion of the beef export market will show those that do not believe the export market affects them because they sell locally, that their prices are tied to the export market.
Products made from a Rendering Facility include soap and lipstick.
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04/25/12, 08:47 AM
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I guess with a YARD FULL OF FEEDERS you would be better off then the boxed beef on the boat headed to South Korea....not saying what we have done for South Korea and still do every day AND THEY ARE FIRST ON THE LIST TO STOP SELLING
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Originally Posted by springvalley
Boy , oh boy, I`m glad I don`t have a yard full of feeders, going to take it in the shorts I`m afraid after this. I don`t think anyone has anything to worry about with the beef in the USA, I think we have about the safest meat in the world.(other than pink slim maybe) > Thanks Marc
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04/25/12, 08:47 AM
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Haypoint, good "points"..LOL
Regardless of what sector you sell to..it is all "connected" to one another.
When I saw this yesterday afternoon, my first thought was..beef prices falling..and low and behold..cattle futures fell.
We have been riding the high tide..lots of speculation on when it will fall..Im not saying this particular incident will cause it..but it could contribute. You can tell people 50 times their beef is not in danger of being tainted..and they STILL won't want the beef..
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04/25/12, 09:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spinandslide
Haypoint, good "points"..LOL
Regardless of what sector you sell to..it is all "connected" to one another.
When I saw this yesterday afternoon, my first thought was..beef prices falling..and low and behold..cattle futures fell.
We have been riding the high tide..lots of speculation on when it will fall..Im not saying this particular incident will cause it..but it could contribute. You can tell people 50 times their beef is not in danger of being tainted..and they STILL won't want the beef..
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I mentioned that because some folks on HT think that what goes on with import/export doesn't matter to them. But it does.
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04/25/12, 09:48 AM
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Agree completly..it all "connects" someway or another..so it's important to know what is going on within the beef world..
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04/25/12, 06:39 PM
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how much you want to bet "premise id" comes back to life now.
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04/25/12, 09:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rancher1913
how much you want to bet "premise id" comes back to life now.
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Why, they caught it, that is all that matters. > Marc
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04/25/12, 09:51 PM
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Beef was up today, not much but up.
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04/25/12, 10:03 PM
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All I can say is that you folks have it really good compared to what we had to go through up here in Canada 9 to 8 years ago. 
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04/29/12, 02:24 PM
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Local news didn't make much of a fuss over it, the dairy cow was 10 years old, never slated for meat, and they stated the feed was clear of animal products. No effect on the market as far as our brand inspector sees. She was also asymptomatic, it was the testing program that turned it up. The upshot for the newscasters was "the system is working to protect us the way it's supposed to."
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04/30/12, 12:45 PM
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Interesting how the NEWS spins this.
USDA policy is to just check a few cows, generally those that are showing signs of possible Mad Cow. It is very rare that this cow, that was walking, eating and producing just fine.
I know of a big slaughter plant near Green Bay, WI that takes in hundreds of old milk cows every day. I know that is they can walk to the killing floor, they are used for human consumption. But this cow went to a rendering operation instead? I wonder why. I wonder how many of the millions of old dairy cows, showing no signs of Mad Cow do get into the human food chain? Healthy old dairy cows rarely go to be rendered.
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