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Old 04/05/12, 09:27 AM
 
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My favorite cow usually has calves that are either completely black or white with black points and spots like this one:
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This year she had one that's white with brown points!
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I'm going to have to keep this heifer, I think. Which means I'll have to change out our bull next year.

edit: But if I change out the bull next year, I can keep the other two heifers born this year..... More fence required!!!
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Old 04/05/12, 09:32 AM
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LOL! I am always up for a good excuse to keep or get something cute and that one sure is a cutie!
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Old 04/05/12, 09:50 AM
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so cute!
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Old 04/05/12, 11:12 AM
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If I had a good bull I would keep him...and let him bred his 3 daughters if it was only 3....ear tag the calves the minute there born and Make sure to sell them...you would problem sell them if bred to another bull as a few will be bull calves anyway....lots of high priced bull have relatives in both the top and bottom of there pedigree
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Old 04/05/12, 12:00 PM
 
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I'd keep her if I were you. She's a cute one.

We just had a heifer that I hope to keep. Not that we need one, but she's captured my heart in just a short time.
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Old 04/05/12, 12:57 PM
 
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I admit, I'm a sucker for the spotty ones. I already have one that we bred to her father last year, and if I keep another one this year, then 2 out of 5 cows will be daughters of the bull we have. If I keep all three heifers born this year, then the daughters would outnumber the original cows who are not related to the bull.
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Old 04/05/12, 06:09 PM
 
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Does she have a bad eye or is that just your reflection I see there?
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Old 04/06/12, 08:30 AM
 
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It's just the camera flash reflecting.
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Old 04/10/12, 09:07 PM
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What is the breed background on the white w/ black points? I recently bought a similar calf that is all white, black points and only a few black spots on her lower body and lower legs. Thanks for the help.
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Old 04/11/12, 09:14 AM
 
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This is the first cow we bought four years ago and her new calf this year. Her name is Lizzy. She's half Longhorn and half Pineywoods.
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We are breeding her to this Lowline Angus, Charley.
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So far half her calves have been solid black, while the others are spotted in the same pattern she has, with little variation- until now, when the same basic spot pattern shows up, but in brown.

I've looked at lots of pictures of Pineywoods online, and lots of them are very close to her coloration- but nothing quite the same.

There is a Longhorn cow listed on an auction I'm going to tomorrow that has almost the same coloration as Lizzy, though, so maybe it's a Longhorn thing? This is the cow at the sale:
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Other cattle breeds that feature white bodies with black points are the British Whites, the White Park and the American White Parks. They don't tend to have so many spots, though. Or the huge horns, of course! I don't know how long Lizzy's horns were before they were trimmed, but the curve that's left seems to indicate her horns weren't as long as the Longhorn cow at the sale.
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Old 04/11/12, 09:51 AM
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Thanks for the information, I have not had a chance to post a picture of her but she is very thick in the rear and has a barrel of a body. She only has a handful of black spots on her, much less than the pictures of yours. If I were to guess, I would estiamte the white to black ratio at 98%:2%. My plans are to keep her and have her AI'd as she comes of age/size along with the Angus heifer I bought from the same lady last week. I have a close friend that does AI on the farm he works on so I thought about AI'ing both of them with one of the 3 breeds you had listed above.
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Old 04/13/12, 04:06 AM
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Lots of Longhorns where I was previously living... That color pattern is really common in them. Both with brown points, and with black. Lizzy's horns look very similar to the "Shorthorns" in the area, who also have this same color pattern in all the herds. (We commonly refer to them as "Shorthorns", meaning they're just like the Longhorns, but their horns are shorter - not that they're the Shorthorn breed. I think technically, they're Corriente).
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Old 04/13/12, 04:21 PM
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there is nothing wrong with keeping the bull and breeding him back to his daughters unless he has some genetic flaws, thats how you improve your herd, he looks like a prime animal, breeding him back to his daughters will make for even better stock down the line, CULL anything that is not quality and breed the rest, inbreeding does not "create" problems it only uncovers them if they exist in the line, if none exist then you are uncovering the best possible, and you can work with that, honestly i would keep that bull and the best of his dauthers/grand daughters for another couple years, then upgrade to another better bull (from his line if possible) and keep breeding best to best,
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