jersey cow with johne's

JJMILKPail · #1 04/04/12, 04:46 PM

I had a Jersey cow that was confirmed with johne's. Her son is now of breeding age. Will he carry the johne's and give it to any heifers he may sire?

Thanks for any help.

myersfarm · #2 04/04/12, 05:28 PM

I would think every cow that came in contact with her could have it

Welcome to Johne's Information Central

topside1 · #3 04/04/12, 05:59 PM

Johnes is not sexually transmitted. It's a bacteria organism that's transmitted orally...I didn't look at Myersfarm link, but I'm sure it's useful....Topside

JJMILKPail · #4 04/04/12, 06:20 PM

About 5 yrs ago we bought this Jersey named Dolly and she had three daughters aaand they were all confirmed with it so we sold them and 2 of Dolly's grandaughters just in case they had it.

G. Seddon · #5 04/04/12, 08:40 PM

I believe they don't start shedding until about age 2. The problem with selling them is that you are perpetuating the disease and now it's somebody else's problem!

topside1 · #6 04/05/12, 07:24 AM

Sucking on dirty teats usually gets the process going...Topside

springvalley · #7 04/05/12, 07:39 AM

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Sucking on dirty teats usually gets the process going...Topside

It`s my understanding that the milk it`s self can be the carrier, so, all of her offspring could be affected. And i hope you didn`t sell the heifers to anyplace other than a butcher. > Thanks Marc

Cliff · #8 04/05/12, 08:49 AM

Johne's stays active in soil for at least a year so anything else you run there for that amount of time after you get rid of the infected ones have a chance of getting it too. We had one cow get it from bringing her to the farm where a Johne's cow had pooped all over

Cliff · #9 04/05/12, 08:53 AM

Johne's is supposed to be incurable... I don't know how true this is but read an article in acres usa a few years ago about a bull who was "cured" of johne's by being taken off all grain and put on only grass. I think it took a while, a year sounds familiar. Not sure though. Anyway, the authors said the gut could heal itself if the animal was fed totally naturally. Interesting and it makes sense I guess.

JJMILKPail · #10 04/05/12, 10:56 AM

Yeah we sold them all to the slaughter house. We usually have atleast a cow a year that gets it. We already had 2 this year, both were bought cows. One we sold last week but the other one had a floating twist, which we treated then she wasn't getting better and she kept losing weight. We had her checked for johne's. The day we got the results back, she had already died the night before. It seems like its the cows we buy are getting sick, not the ones we raise.

myersfarm · #11 04/05/12, 11:15 AM

from MY LINK •Research shows that, today, one out of 10 animals moving through livestock auction facilities has Johne’s disease.

you might be picking out the skinny cows because they will be cheaper

springvalley · #12 04/05/12, 01:05 PM

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. It seems like its the cows we buy are getting sick, not the ones we raise.

Think I would maybe not be buying cows then, why not buy private, most people would be willing to have them tested if you buy private. > Thanks Marc

JJMILKPail · #13 04/05/12, 01:18 PM

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Think I would maybe not be buying cows then, why not buy private, most people would be willing to have them tested if you buy private. > Thanks Marc

We try to buy from herd sales, where the farmer is selling all of his cows not just selling the bad ones. I think johne's is just in our farm.

Madsaw · #14 04/06/12, 10:29 PM

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I had a Jersey cow that was confirmed with johne's. Her son is now of breeding age. Will he carry the johne's and give it to any heifers he may sire?

Thanks for any help.

Jamie,
Usally bulls will show signs of it and at that point are activly shedding the bacteria. It is picked up by the calf at teh first feeding. Some suggest feeding a colustrum replacement instead of from the cow. Or feed frozen clostrum from a knowen/tested clean cow. Its not a STD but a bull can carry many things but never show signs or be ill from them. Mant farms have found by useing the same bucket on the skid steer to clean up manure then feed with it will pass it on too. It stays in the soil for yrs just like blackleg. There is many steps that can be taken to eliminate jhones. First would be a whole herd test and culling positives. Next would be a strict guidelines for newborn calves. Then closing down the farm for buying any more cattle and bringing in other infected animals. You will see a high cull rate the first 2 yrs then a decline in outbreaks from there out. I have only heard of one bull with johnes in many yrs.

JJMILKPail · #15 04/07/12, 05:50 AM

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Jamie,
Usally bulls will show signs of it and at that point are activly shedding the bacteria. It is picked up by the calf at teh first feeding. Some suggest feeding a colustrum replacement instead of from the cow. Or feed frozen clostrum from a knowen/tested clean cow. Its not a STD but a bull can carry many things but never show signs or be ill from them. Mant farms have found by useing the same bucket on the skid steer to clean up manure then feed with it will pass it on too. It stays in the soil for yrs just like blackleg. There is many steps that can be taken to eliminate jhones. First would be a whole herd test and culling positives. Next would be a strict guidelines for newborn calves. Then closing down the farm for buying any more cattle and bringing in other infected animals. You will see a high cull rate the first 2 yrs then a decline in outbreaks from there out. I have only heard of one bull with johnes in many yrs.

My name is Jessica, Mr. Pierce. Thanks for the info.