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12/08/11, 03:38 PM
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Craigslist find, almost dead calf
Im bored so I pop on craigslist to see whats going on and find a free Jersey bull calf a week old bought at you guessed it the auction.
I was going to leave the calf then a little girl came out and asked her mommy if that lady was going to make him better so he didnt die  um sure little girl so I proceeded to load the calf.
Calfs mouth was cold, hes got watery scours but eyes are bright. Hes a bit dehydrated. I drove home all the way with the floor heater full blast and he seems a bit better. Last night it was 30 here and he was outside by himself.
Question is I know hes not warm enough yet to feed but is there anything besides sub q fluids, nuflor (gave 1.5 ccs) that I can give him? I have a full arsenal of junk for the goats.
hes on several rugs with a protectant pad under him, hes laying with his head up.
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12/08/11, 03:49 PM
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I have fed cold calves very warm elecrolytes and it helps warm them up from the inside.
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12/08/11, 04:39 PM
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I thought they where like goats and nothing could go in the rumen if they where cold. How much do I give him?
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12/08/11, 04:53 PM
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start with a pint...see how he does...warm in the tummy surely will help...
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12/08/11, 05:07 PM
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Cannon Farms, you're to be commended for rescuing this calf. What a tough start he has had. If he had no colostrum, it's going to be a really rough time. I wish you all the best in caring for him and hope he'll make it!
Sometimes I think Craigslist should not be allowed to sell animals!
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12/08/11, 05:14 PM
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I got one of those feebies too. Well, actually he was selling him for $50.00, and my neighbor who came with me told the guy we would take him and see if we could save him, so he let me--he is doing fine now.
If Craigslist wasn't allowed to sell animals, then my Bones would be dead, and so would the one here.
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12/08/11, 05:26 PM
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My husband wishes craigslist would stop, its where i find most of these pity parties. I just did a pint of electrolytes.He has no suck reflex but swallowed the pint. I had put syrup in his mouth earlier to give him a sugar boost and gave 6cc of b complex.
any other advice???
His watery bowls are yellow does that say anything other than not good? they had him on the dumor milk replacer, not the total milk one but the next one down which was medicated if Im not mistaken.
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12/08/11, 06:18 PM
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were starting the death gasp and hes flat on one side so I dont think any miracles are happening here tonight
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12/08/11, 07:18 PM
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Sorry to hear that
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12/08/11, 07:24 PM
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 praying for you both.
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12/08/11, 10:07 PM
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he didnt make it, i didnt think he would..
Is the watery yellow scours a sign of anything, it smelled sickly so Im worried about a contagous bacterial infection.
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12/09/11, 07:46 PM
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Calf was sold at auction, put up for free on cl after they started losing it. Auctions are where the problems are, a lot of times the cl ones can be straight from the farm which makes their chances a lot better IMO or at least around here they can be.
Lots of bleach cannon, lots of bleach And I would try to keep any other animals away from where it was. Sorry it didn't make it.
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12/09/11, 08:46 PM
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possibly e-coli
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12/10/11, 01:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by G. Seddon
If he had no colostrum, it's going to be a really rough time.
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That is the problem. They sell the dairy bulls at livestock auctions because they want to save all the colostrum for any of the female dairy animals. It also happens to the dairy bucklings. We have bought many, many young animals for less than ten dollars a piece because the older farmers just don't want to allow the Mama's to feed them.
Honestly, I haven't seen a lot of luck in saving the baby bulls. Kids do better than the cows do. I would be giving the little guy some warm electrolytes with a tiny bit of vodka to aid absorption. I mean tiny bit like 3-4 drops in the quart bottle, not a lot. If it temp is already low, I wouldn't hold out a lot of hope. I do wish you the best.
A few years ago I bought some of the babies for two dollars a piece, and they did great. It just helps if you get them early enough after they are born, and can get some of your own colostrum down them. I have seen a lot of them die though that people have bought at auction.
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12/10/11, 01:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cannon_Farms
he didnt make it, i didnt think he would..
Is the watery yellow scours a sign of anything, it smelled sickly so Im worried about a contagous bacterial infection.
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It's probably just pulpy kidney. It's common in young animals like that, and the smell/color is the main symptom.
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12/10/11, 05:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mekasmom
It's probably just pulpy kidney. It's common in young animals like that, and the smell/color is the main symptom.
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Rubbish! The smell/colour of poo has nothing at all to do with pulpy kidney. In fact all young animals in the first week or so of life crap out yellow and the smell isn't to hot either, although having said that the crap should be soft to firm rather than runny. Your first answer would have been more correct then add to that the stress of traveling and there is one dead calf.
Perhaps America needs to get it's animal welfare laws sorted out particularly when it comes to calves. In NZ it is an offence to sell or otherwise dispose to another person, a calf that is less than 4 days old and that calf must have been fed colostrum for the first 24 hours of it's life. Recently several greedy dairy farmers have ended up in court and paid fines of up to $5,000.00. They found out it was an expensive calf they sold to the unwary and I bet they don't do it again in a hurry. While I'm sure that many calves slip through the net, the heftly fines to those that do get caught serve as a big deterrent and most smallholders here will refuse to buy calves under four days old so farmers are pretty much forced into doing it the right way. I will personally not buy in a calf under four days old, and only do so from farmers whom I know will give calves their full complement of colostrum, either through the dam or via calfateria.
Sorry that you lost him Cannon but at least you tried.
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12/10/11, 11:29 AM
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The dairy I got my boys from leaves them on for 3 to 4 days. He says he can't put colostrum in the tanks, so why pull the calves? Made sense to me.
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12/10/11, 06:07 PM
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Sorry you lost the calf. Dairy calves, especially ones from auctions and moved a lot through a lot of stressful situations, are nigh impossible to keep alive. It can be done, but it's hard. Baby kids are easier, but they don't always make it either. :-(
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