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07/09/11, 04:46 PM
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Putting a Dairy Under a Beef?
I'm wondering if anyone here has done this? I would think it would be a kinda ideal set up as you'd be able to get milk and beef. I'm new to cattle, just recently bitten by the bug, so I know I must be missing something.
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07/09/11, 04:57 PM
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Growing up, my family always ran an angus bull with the heifers.
Low birthweights and easier calving for the little girls.
BTW, I have always heard that phrase as "putting beef OVER dairy". LOL
I grew up in WA too. 
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07/09/11, 07:54 PM
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Opps, told ya I was new. LOL
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07/09/11, 09:29 PM
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Either way, it's the cow that has the final say  .ck
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07/10/11, 05:35 PM
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I hear Dexters are good for milk and beef and are small so feed isnt too much of a problum.
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07/10/11, 06:04 PM
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I have a Jersey cow and have used Angus and Lowline Angus with wonderful success.
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07/10/11, 06:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Trisha in WA
I have a Jersey cow and have used Angus and Lowline Angus with wonderful success.
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Do you get decent beef calves from that combo?
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07/11/11, 06:42 AM
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Of my 7 remaining milking cows, 5 are dairy/beef cross breds - Jersey/Belgian Blue, Jersey/Simmental, Freisian/Herford and two that are an admixture of Hereford/Jersey/Simmental/Friesian and these two are supurb milkers. I also have two straight Jerseys. I now use an Angus bull as a terminal sire and I can assure you that put over a Jersey produces great calves. Small birthweight (so easy calving) and grows into a compact animal.
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07/11/11, 09:11 AM
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We have Jersey cows and have been using Jersey semen / or live bull, but after researching Milking Shorthorns, we are going that direction for next breeding. What sold us is a half Jersey-half Shorthorn bottle baby we raised this year who is outgrowing calves way older than him. Good formation, and good natured, expecting some great beef from him next year. He is a brilliant red color with reddish eyes that kind of glow-- so we call him Lucifer...
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07/11/11, 10:01 AM
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We got a couple Holstein x Angus calves when I was a kid. They did made nice beef, but we kept them as cows for a few years first.  Their calves were gorgeous and the extra milk made them grow like crazy. So yeah, you would get more beef off your calves. The reason my friend with a Jersey doesn't though, is that her heifer calves are worth much more than beef cross would be.
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07/11/11, 05:51 PM
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Excellent! Thank you all for the answers. I'm glad to hear the idea is a good one and that others have had good success with it. I think that's the direction I'll go then.
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07/11/11, 09:08 PM
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You'll get LOTS of vigorous growth from the crossbreeds, so yes, do that. I had a Guernsey-Angus cross steer that at 10 months was as big as 13 mo. old Angus steers, but he was still on his mother at processing time.
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07/11/11, 11:26 PM
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I'm using a black mixed breed beef bull on all my milkers now and am getting some awesome small birthweight calves with good weining weights and especially good feed conversion rates for being part dairy bred. I'm awful fond of Jersey/beef meat. My family loves it.
With retaining the heifers for future milkers, some have been good, and some not so good. I've not done any breeding for anything special, just calves!
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07/12/11, 10:16 PM
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Is mastitis a concern in this case (Beef x Dairy) if you're not milking, just letting the calf take it? In other words, being a dairy cow, would she produce so much more than the calf needed that her chance of mastitis was higher?
If not, then this seems like a neat idea. I've heard that calves with ample milk make better tasting beef. Any truth to that?
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