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03/21/11, 09:58 AM
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Cow Just Threw up--ideas??
Went out to milk this morning.
We've had her for a little over a week, but I have noticed the last 2 days when I've gone out to milk after separating the calf at night, Adele has had slobber and froth around her mouth.
Today, put her in the stanchion, gave her grain, washed her udder (which was less full than the day before) and she threw up all over her grain.
What is going on?!?!
I have never had a cow throw up!
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03/21/11, 10:12 AM
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How much grain is she getting? Is there Bicarbonate of soda in the feed? Did she come from a commercial herd?
Most commercial herds use biCarb. This could be a food adjustment issue.
Without knowing more I would back off on the grain, give her a dose of probiotic, a B12 shot, and plenty of clean grass hay. If she has been getting alfalfa keep giving her some but if you have grass hay back off on the alfalfa too.
Good luck.
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03/21/11, 10:18 AM
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She was not in a commercial herd, I could ask her past owner if she had bicarb
What probiotic do you use? I have b12 I can give her. She has lots of grass hay, a little alfalfa mixed in but not much.
Not a ton of grain either.
Should it be ok to use her milk?
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03/21/11, 10:20 AM
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My Dexter milk cow did this one spring. We didn't really know what it was so I did some checking on the internet. If they are out on grass, it could be some toxic vegetation they have picked up. It can be caused by cattle grubs in the throat. It can be caused by foamy bloat. We did a shotgun approach by worming the cow, giving her a bloat drench and keeping her in on just hay and water for about a week. She did fine after that.
"Common cattle grub larvae dying in the esophagus will cause difficulty in breathing, excessive foamy salivation, vomiting, bloat, and suffocation. Death is quite common when this reaction is observed."
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ig126
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03/21/11, 11:11 AM
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Not sure of what probiotic to use. Check with your feedmill or vet's office.
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03/21/11, 11:18 AM
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Okay, one more thought. Is she standing with her neck stretched out and hollow eyed? Lots of drooling? If so she could have hardware. You might want to get a magnet down her throat.
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03/21/11, 11:26 AM
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Hmmm, I will go take a look at her.
I remember now, thinking she hadn't drank much water in the pen I had her in, when I let her out (this was yesterday), she went and drank from one of the other water troughs. Could she be dehydrated?
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03/21/11, 12:05 PM
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I doubt she is dehydrated with the drooling. Have you listened for gut activity? Hold your ear to her belly and you should hear a lot of rumbling and gurgling. If not her gut has shut down. Also listen to her lungs. There should be no whistling or rasps or rales.
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Had the doc out to see my Jersey the other day.
He squeezed her back bone in a few places. He said if she had hardware she wouldn't scrunch down, she did thankfully--scrunch down that is.
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We are starting soccer practice today, one of the other kids' mom and dad are vets. I will ask them and see what they think.
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03/21/11, 12:17 PM
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We are starting soccer practice today, one of the other kids' mom and dad are vets. I will ask them and see what they think.
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Bring as much info as you can. Do as I asked and listen to the gut and lungs. Take her temp if you have a thermometer. Some professionals get irritated by folks asking questions away from the office, so maybe bring some fresh baked cookies. 
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03/21/11, 12:21 PM
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Bring as much info as you can. Do as I asked and listen to the gut and lungs. Take her temp if you have a thermometer. Some professionals get irritated by folks asking questions away from the office, so maybe bring some fresh baked cookies. |
LOL!!! 
I actually have never taken an animals temp...so far haven't needed to....where is the best place to do this? Do you just use a reg. thermometer?
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03/21/11, 12:35 PM
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LOL!!!
I actually have never taken an animals temp...so far haven't needed to....where is the best place to do this? Do you just use a reg. thermometer? |
If the animal is facing north go to the south end.........
Not sure if an oral thermometer will work. If you try it, keep a good hold or it will disappear an then you will have another problem.
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03/21/11, 07:46 PM
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Check her temp, an oral works just hold on, and also for rumen function. You make a fist and on her left side in the triangle between her hip bone and rib cage, push your fist in and look at your watch, a normal function will feel the rumen turn twice within two minutes ... no not once a minute, twice within two!
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03/22/11, 02:49 AM
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My cow did that a few month ago,in the snow ,just on Hay.
When I asked someone said she might have something stuck in her throat.
Mine only did it a couple of times and that was that.
Good luck,hope she's ok!
Chris
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