Bull and his off spring

[Kbell]

Hello from wet Georgia, praise the Lord we need rain.

I have a question...I have a bull and the two new calves are his off spring. Is it safe for him breed them? If so, would I need to sale him next breeding generation? Thanks in advance.

[KSALguy]

yes its safe, in general terms, you wont end up with a two headed six leg calf, but is he really the best possible breeding bull or just a bull? what are your goals in breeding>? are you just wanting to produce meat? anytime you breed related animals you concentraite any genetic material already in the mix, if you have good genetics you will get more good, if you have bad you will get more bad, if you cull the bad and keep the good thats how you manage ANY breeding herd regardless of who the daddy is,

[rancher1913]

personally I would not do it, to many potential genitic problems. use AI or sell the hefiers and buy unrelated replacements. also if these are young heifers and he's an older bull the chances are good he will break their backs breeding them. you really need a young bull with young heifers.

[Kbell]

Thanks everyone for the replys. There's someone looking at them to buy and he had asked me and I told him I would find out. I will tell him and we'll go from there.

[springvalley]

I personly wouldn`t do it either, but it`s not my call. >Marc

[Shoupie]

Well my neighbor has a herd that is about 10-12 generations inbred, I seriously don't know how they're still alive but apparently you can do it that many times with lines that aren't carrying lethal killers. He's lost quite a few calves and mothers over the years but there are a quite a few appalachia cattle left

...now these cattle are the fugliest things I've seen, very wide-set foreheads bulging eyes and terrible confirmation but I guess you can still eat them.

A sire mated to his daughters or a dam mated to her son is called line breeding and is ok for 1 generation.

If you're just going to eat the offspring or sell them as feeders, I'd go for it.

[KSALguy]

i think its funny how people think simply inbreeding will cause the Devil to show up and run amuck in your herd, that is a humanized ideal that has no founding, the fact is if you breed two related animals what that does is display what is ALREADY THERE, if you have bad genetics it will show that you ALREADY HAD BAD GENETICS, if you have good genetics then you have even better genetics, if you CULL, oh wow whats that??> CULL your herd keeping the best and breeding for the best then you will not have any problems, is it such a hard concept? yeah i guess it is,
breeding a bull to his daughters one time will most likely not have any ill effects even if there ARE bad genetics in there some place, and if they do show up in the first related mateing then you shouldnt be breeding with that bull anyway.

if you continue breeding that bull to unrelated stock that gene is still passed on and can show up any time, just because the two parrents are not related doesnt mean it wont, if both unrelated animals have the gene but no body knew it and they were bred it would show up and you would blame it on something else.