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Old 03/22/09, 10:54 AM
 
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Minerals & Salt

We've been putting out the mineral salt blocks from Tractor Supply, but after reading as much as possible on nutrition I'm thinking that loose minerals/salts would be better.

We put out Redmond Trace Mineral Salt mixed with a little DE for natural worming assistance, Thorvin Kelp, and a general mineral mix from Tractor Supply free choice in a bunk feeder under a shelter. One heifer tasted the mineral mix a few times, but the rest pretty much looked at me like I was crazy and went on about their grazing. I'm thinking the girls just weren't used to the loose form after the blocks, and will come around in time...but I'm not sure at this point.

What are you all doing for minerals/salts?
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Old 03/22/09, 12:15 PM
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What are you all doing for minerals/salts?
Hi Susy....

Back before the big BSE scare (Which I believe to be a bogus, scare tactic, incentive for NAIS) when you were able to readily procure bone meal... I was introduced to the following salt/mineral mix......

150 lbs... Loose rock salt
50 lbs.... Bone meal.... 1 part organic calcium
50 lbs.... Calcium carbonate.... 1 part inorganic calcium
50 lbs.... Di-calcium phosphate... 1 part phosphate
25 lbs.... Trace mineral..... No salt added

You might have to go to an actual feed mill to acquire the above ingredients.....

If fish meal is readily available... And not too expensive.. 50 lbs could be added as a supplemental protein source....

Urea (Yes... Fertilizer) can also be used as a cheap source of supplemental protein for ruminants... Although not the most healthy thing to add... I wouldn't add more than 50 lbs to the above mix and I would not free choice it where horses would have access to it......

In the absence of bone meal... You could add 50 more lbs of calcium carbonate. To achieve the 2 to 1 ratio of calcium to phosphorus.....

You could also add 50 lbs of dried molasses for palatability.... However IMHO.... It's gratuitous and merely adds additional expense..... If the cattle need mineral/salt they'll lick the ground to get it... So sweet don't matter....

By the By.... The reason for the calcium/di-calcium phosphate is that...... Calcium and phosphorus body reserves are depleted through lactation.......

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Old 03/22/09, 01:16 PM
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SusyTX,
I always prefer loose minerals over blocks as most others do as well from what I've heard. It might be a good idea to go to an actual feedstore rather than a chain store and ask them for a mineral mix that has anaplaz preventative in it as well as a well-rounded balance of all the critters need. Keep it out year round. Purina makes a very good mineral and about any feedstore that carries Purina products should have it. I'd have to look on the sack, but I believe it's called "weather,wind,&rain range mineral".
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We use loose but we also grain feed. We shake the mineral/salt mix right into the feed bunk on top of the feed.


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SusyTX,
It might be a good idea to go to an actual feedstore rather than a chain store and ask them for a mineral mix that has anaplaz preventative in it as well as a well-rounded balance of all the critters need.
Hi Francismilker....

Not to be contentious... However.... I would raise a red flag of caution about the use of antibiotics as a broad based prophylactic measure for disease control, in the absence of acute symptoms.....


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Definitive answers about the safety of antimicrobial use in animals remain
scientifically challenging, but more information is accumulating that raises
concerns about food safety. As a result of treating animals with antibiotics, food
borne microbes may become resistant to the antibiotics used to treat human
disease. When an animal is treated with an antimicrobial drug, a selective
pressure is applied to all bacteria exposed to the drug. Bacteria that are susceptible
to the antimicrobial are killed or put at a competitive disadvantage, while
bacteria that have the ability to resist the antimicrobial have an advantage and are
able to grow more rapidly than more susceptible bacteria. In addition, bacteria
can become resistant when resistance genes are passed from a resistant bacterium
to a sensitive one. Thus, antimicrobial agents may increase the prevalence of
resistant bacteria among both target pathogens and normal bacterial flora.


http://www.fda.gov/cvm/Documents/JUDAIRY.pdf
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Old 03/22/09, 02:42 PM
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Certainly not trying to be contentious either but I don't consider it to be medicating without the presence of danger. While I realize we don't keep our kids on antibiotics without them being sick to prevent a cold, the trace amounts of Chlortetracyclene in the minerals are only enough to help prevent the disease from exposure to ticks and flies in beef cattle. If they do end up getting sick, it takes lots of LA-200 to pull them around.
I'm not sure if things are the same in your climate, but around SE Oklahoma if you don't have something in the minerals for antaplasmosis prevention you could be in a bind. One day the cow looks good and the next day she's either dead or near dead. I've always been advised by my vet to keep some minerals out from Spring through Fall with Chlortetracyclene in it to aid cattle during fly season.

I know this is rather lengthy, but I'll post an article about it.
Q: What would be the symptoms of anaplasmosis in a 3-5 year old brood cow? Is there a dependable treatment? Is it generally considered contagious to other cattle in the same location?

A: Anaplasmosis is an infectious disease of cattle, causing destruction of the red blood cells. The disease is caused by a minute parasite, Anaplasma marginale , found in the red blood cells of infected cattle. It may be transmitted from infected animals to healthy animals by insects (usually ticks) or by man via surgical instruments.

After the organism gains entry into a susceptible animal, the anaplasma parasite slowly reproduces in the animal's blood. During an incubation period of 4 to 6 weeks, the animal remains healthy and shows no signs of being infected. Finally, after the parasite has reproduced many times and established itself in the red blood cells of the animal, the body attempts to destroy the parasite. In doing so, the animal's defense system also destroys the infected red blood cells. The loss of a substantial number of red blood cells results in clinical anemia being observed in the infected animal.

Cattlemen may first notice the anemic, anaplasmosis-infected animal when it becomes weak and lags behind the herd. It refuses to drink water or eat. The skin becomes pale around the eyes and on the muzzle, lips, and teats. Later the animal may show constipation, excitement, rapid weight loss, and yellow tinged skin. The animal may fall or lie down, and be unable to rise. The affected cattle either die, or begin a recovery, one to four days after the first signs of the disease. Cattle that survive the clinical disease lose weight, abort calves, and recover slowly over a two or three-month period.

All ages of cattle may become infected with anaplasmosis; however, the severity of illness increases with age. Calves under six months-of-age seldom show enough symptoms to detect that they are infected. Cattle six months to three years-of-age become increasingly ill, and more deaths occur with advancing age. After three years of age, 30 to 50 percent of the cattle which develop clinical anaplasmosis, die if untreated.

Unless adequately medicated, cattle that recover from anaplasmosis remain reservoirs (carriers) of the disease for the remainder of their lives. The carrier animal will not exhibit any clinical signs associated with the persistent low-level A. marginale infection. Nevertheless, the blood from these recovered animals will cause anaplasmosis if introduced into susceptible cattle. Carriers rarely become ill with anaplasmosis a second time. The unidentified carriers in a herd are the most likely source of infection for future outbreaks of the disease.

Treatment of anaplasmosis is most effective if given in the early stage of the disease. A single dose of longacting oxytetracycline (ex. LA-200®) is administered subcutaneously at 9 mg per pound of body weight. Blood transfusions are occasionally used. Animals in later stages of the disease may be so anemic that the stress of handling them will kill them. There is also evidence that antibiotics at this stage are not effective. (Richey, 1999) Therefore, for very weakened or belligerent cattle, antibiotic treatment is not recommended. Contact your veterinarian if you suspect anaplasmosis on your farm. This will allow a positive diagnosis of anaplasmosis to be made and the best course of treatment implemented.

All affected animals should be provided with easy access to food and water and a low-stress environment. It may take surviving animals up to 3 months to completely recover from the disease. Animals treated with a single dose of antibiotics and those not treated at all will both become carrier animals. Carrier animals can be cleared of anaplasmosis with repeated injections of long-acting oxytetracycline or prolonged feeding of chlortetracycline.


Dr. Rick Rasby, Professor of Animal Science
Animal Science, University of Nebraska - Lincoln, Lincoln, NE
October 5th, 2007
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There are a lot of cattle in the area I live. As a consequence we have a number of feed mills and vets that cater to the cattle business. The market for minerals is lucrative and there are several sources for custom mixed minerals that match the perceived needs of cattle to this specific area. I may benefit to ask at local farm suppliers if such a mixture is available for the specific area that you reside.
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