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Old 09/20/07, 09:28 PM
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Is it possible to remove horns from a cow? I am not crazy about her having horns & the other cow I am getting will not have them. Of course I don't want to have it done if it is going to traumatize her.
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Old 09/20/07, 09:33 PM
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A veterinary can remove horns from a grown cow. It's painful for them, but I've had it done before.
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Old 09/21/07, 06:11 PM
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My neighbor is going to help me cut the points off my cow's horns (he is a veterinarian, how lucky am I) He says we can cut them pretty short (4-6 ins.) without causing too much bleeding and trauma so a good compromise for us.
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You really have to put your own safety above the comfort of the animal.
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Old 09/21/07, 06:26 PM
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I would band it. I have watched it done, but takes alot longer then if you are doing a goat!
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Old 09/21/07, 06:27 PM
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Old 09/21/07, 07:31 PM
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It's nasty but you can do it quite easily if her head is immobilized. If you don't have a good solid stanchion or a way to control her you won't be able to do it. When we went to a different feeder situation 30 years ago we had to dehorn an entire herd of 40 adult cows, so I got pretty good at it.

It's a good idea to wait until winter/late fall when the weather is cooler/cold so the flies don't bother the wound, too.

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Old 09/22/07, 01:19 AM
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No matter how its done, dehorning a full grown animal is a nasty business. IMHO, putting horn weights on is a lot less traumatic and results in handsome but useless horns. Just Google for the weights.
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Old 09/22/07, 01:25 PM
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Useless horns? I cannot think of any type or curve of horns that makes them useless or not dangerous.

Dehorning mature cows is doable. I suggest a vet with lots of experience in that department. They are quick and that will cut down on the pain experienced by the cow.
The guy that did ours used a racheting guillotine set up and then pulled any bleeders. They had powder packed on the area covered in guaze, then a bonnet tied on top. 24 hours later we cut the string holding the bonnet on and then it was allowed to fall off with time. We kept them from the herd for three days because we knew what was coming to them when they rejoined the herd minus those horns. He doesn't like doing them into the third gestation of pregnancy. One of the girls was a day or two in but the pregnancy was fine. We didn't have any infections. When the school had it done (by a different person without as much experience) their cows did have more problems result. They had a couple with infections and they didn't heal as quick.

Ours recovered fairly quickly and it changed the attitude on at least one.
Definitely wait until Fall/Winter because it opens up their sinus cavities and you really don't want to be dealing with maggots in there.

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The Fall Mistie's horns were removed. She was a sweetie and we never saw any indicaion that she used those horns on anyone else. Dad would lean in between her horns and scratch her neck. We couldn't leave just one animal with horns, so hers were removed along with Snowdrift's (the reason for their removal) and Sandy's. She and Sandy were 4, I believe, and Snowdrift was 3. Mistie and Sandy turn 8 next month and Snowdrift will be 7 in January, I think...

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Mistie a couple years later... I have one the following Spring, but she is dry and overweight. This is a much more flattering shot. lol Mistie does have a little bit of a scur on her right side. A tiny bit of horn leftover.

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Sandy with horns. This cow hated me with a passion. Don't know why and we likely never will. It was so bad she slammed a cousin who was wearing a brown vest similar to one I wore at the time. He was shocked as our cows are incredibly calm and never dangerous. As you can tell, she had no problems with complete strangers (only if they were waering clothes similar to me.

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This would have been a few years later...not sure when. The Jersey behind her was the reason the horns were removed from the three.
Snowdrift got out of her stanchion, turned to her right and tore into the cow standing next to her. Simone had huge lumps on her side, she wouldn't come in the barn, wouldn't eat, wouldn't milk. She was the highest producer before that. The guy was out in less than two weeks and all three had their horns removed.
Dehorning changed Sandy's attitude and she is fine with me now. Snowdrift is still a brat but she cannot cause serious damage to others now.

We haven't have any with horns since. I've made it a point to have the vet out for disbudding within the first month. Now, it's up to me to burn them.


I do know a woman who has horns on her girls, but not her bulls or steers. They can be worked around, but you have to be very aware and you need the right cow.
With us having a milking herd we cannot allow a few with horns and most without. They learn to take advantage of those horns.
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Old 09/22/07, 06:21 PM
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In the modern world there is no reason a cow should be allowed to have horns.
With proper fencing and predator control (which is largely all ready taken care of unless you are in a wolf re-introduction area) they do not need them.
They are dangerous to you, they are dangerous to other cows. Watch 2 bossies work out who is the boss cow and you will see them stick their head down and go for the stomach and udder.

Taking off adult cow horns is messy and hard work. Have a vet do it or ask other farmers if they know someone that does it well.
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I've got a new Dexter who we are trying to settle; she has one normal horn and one that is skewed down across her eye. She shakes her head about when she gets excited which shakes me up...IF she settles can we dehorn her while she's pregnant?
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Old 09/23/07, 10:20 PM
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Mine is due the end of March/first part of April. Can I safely have them done now??
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Old 09/23/07, 11:29 PM
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Remember, if you do it when its colder, and you need to give them a shot to calm them down, make sure the vet doesn't over do it. Too cold of weather, with a shot to sedate her some, can lead to death. Best time is during days when its 50's, nights in the 40's. Do it in the morning, and keep an eye throughout the day. The stuff doesn't last long, but its what we have had to do, to some. Those who simply were too nutty.


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I never like to be the same as everybody else and all my cows have their horns as did the bull and that's the way I like it. It's not a deliberate choice, it just happens to be the way they come and it doesn't worry me. I know they have horns and make allowances for them when moving around them. My present bull is an Angus so from now on in everything born will be polled and that doesn't bother me either.

There have been several instances where I've had to have the horns removed. These have been mostly on bought-in cows that have had botched dehorning procedures in the past and the horns have regrown curving down to the face. The cow is put into a head bail, the vet injects local anaesthetic, saws through them with something that looks like piano wire and within minutes the cow is back in the paddock none the worse for wear - and done properly, the horns don't regrow. For some of you, dehorning adult cattle sounds like a great drama when it really doesn't have to be.

As has been mentioned, wait until the cooler weather as it reduces the fly input and also the blood flow afterwards will not be as great. And just as importantly, check the weather forecast and make sure there is no rain in sight. The horn opens directly into the sinus and if that get full of water you have a dead cow.

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Old 09/24/07, 07:24 AM
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I just cut the horns off a 3 year old jersy. We secured her head, and used a sawzall. We cut them off about an inch from her head. SHe didnt bleed, or bawl, or anything.
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I do/did (no more) mine like Ronny's vet. A piece of obstetrical saw wire, secure the cow's head and get with it. The saw wire will cut the horn off as low as you want. I try to take off a bit of hide and hair so that the horn does not grow back. Pull bleeders, pack with blood-stop. That still leaves an open sinus and a miserable cow for the time it takes to heal over.

If I was a trader and wanted to make a profit from buying and trading calves I would buy lean horned animals, dehorn, worm, fatten just a tad and sell again. I know a fellow here who works at a sale barn and does exactly that. He dehorns with a rachet-type guillotine dehorner.
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