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Does anybody have a picture of an Ayrshire with ....
horns ??? I've heard that they have unique and pretty horns. All the pics i can find are dehorned ayrshires. Thanks !
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09/05/07, 04:18 PM
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This is all Google.com had! I know alot of breeders but I think they dehorn them all.
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09/05/07, 08:52 PM
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I wouldn't want horns on those, or any breed. One thing that you dont want to tangle with. Dangerous...
Might be cool looking, but when they use them to push other animals or even you, they can kill.
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09/05/07, 08:55 PM
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I've had several horned Jerseys. They've never been a threat to me. When I had a herd of them, though, I dehorned them so they wouldn't hurt one another.
I recall back when I subscribed to some farm magazine or other, there was a comic strip called "Ada The Ayrshire".
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09/05/07, 09:36 PM
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I've got faint scars on either side of my stomach from when I was about 10, an Ayrshire with horns turned and pinned me against a wall. If I was just a bit fatter (then, not now) I would have been in big trouble. No horns here.
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09/05/07, 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Donna from Mo
I've had several horned Jerseys. They've never been a threat to me. When I had a herd of them, though, I dehorned them so they wouldn't hurt one another.
I recall back when I subscribed to some farm magazine or other, there was a comic strip called "Ada The Ayrshire".
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That was a great strip. It was published in the Farm Journal. Cartoonist Walt Wetterberg created and drew it from 1941 until 1968.
I've got a book that's a collection of the best cartoons over the years: A Book of Udder Nonsense. Funny stuff.
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09/06/07, 08:24 AM
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Oh my, thanks for finding the pic, but i now am a bit worried. My two steers ( 4 months old ) have horns coming in, and i have no idea how to disbud a calf ( if they are too old even i don't know ). I thought since i was only going to keep them for 18 months or so it wouldn't be an issue, but those horns look like spears. Any idea how fast they grow ? One of the calf's horn buds you can see about one inch out of the hair on his head, so they are maybe 2 inches long, the other you can almost see, but they are more easily felt. Now i'm not sure what to do - any chance they won't pose a problem if they are only here till 18 months ? Thanks !
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09/06/07, 08:49 AM
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One possible alternative is horn weights. Hereford breeders use them to train the horns to grow downward. Downward pointing horns are much less dangerous.
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09/06/07, 12:14 PM
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where would i get horn weights, and at what age should i start to use them ? Thanks !
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09/07/07, 08:38 AM
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where would i get horn weights, and at what age should i start to use them ? Thanks !
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You could probably find them in a farm store in the west. I bet you could find them on ebay also. As I remember We put the weights on their first winter (these were spring calves). Once the horns are well started downward take them off or they will turn too far in and can then eventually grow into the cows cheek.
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09/07/07, 09:53 AM
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Your best bet is to wait until after a hard freeze in october-early Nov., then hire a vet or farmer to come to your place and dehorn them for you.
By 12-15 months of age they would be long enough horns to be dangerous to people and to the other farm animals.
If you cannot find someone local contact Dr. Steve Meyers at the Willow Animal Hospital in Ashland or Dr. Dan Blomquist at the Area Vet Clinic in Ashland. Both qualified professionals. Give them advance notice so they can work you in with one of their clients that is in Douglas County.
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09/07/07, 09:58 AM
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Thanks Up North ! I'll look into haveing somebody remove them then later this fall - so i take it they aren't like goats then and it's not too late ? We also have horses and goats, so i'm concerned about them injuring them. Any idea what a vet charges to do this ? Thanks again !
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09/07/07, 04:00 PM
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I't s about five buck a head in my neck of the woods. It'll cost you more in gas than in dehorning......
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09/11/07, 08:22 AM
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I was quoted $75 for the both of them, including the 15 miles they have to travel to me, i'm still trying to get a hold of my vet and those that Up North recomended. It seems like a bit much to me, though i could be wrong. Thanks !
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09/11/07, 08:37 AM
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I was quoted $75 for the both of them, including the 15 miles they have to travel to me, i'm still trying to get a hold of my vet and those that Up North recomended. It seems like a bit much to me, though i could be wrong. Thanks !
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Well, you are paying more for the farm call than the work. Any way you could trailer them to the vet? Prolly cheaper.
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well i don't own a trailer, so thats out of the question. I'm waiting for my vet to call me back to see what he charges as i need him to come out for some general work sometime this fall ( herd health checks ). $75 just seems high for a rancher and not a vet to be charging. Thanks !
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This 1/2 Jersey bull was just under 10 months old when this was taken. His horns were about 5" long. We made him into dinner two weeks later. He was feisty.
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09/12/07, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Middle River
Thanks Up North ! I'll look into haveing somebody remove them then later this fall - so i take it they aren't like goats then and it's not too late ? We also have horses and goats, so i'm concerned about them injuring them. Any idea what a vet charges to do this ? Thanks again !
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No, it is not too late. A good vet will remove them quickly, and the animal will heal. Not sure what the current vet charges would be.
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