clones and milk and meat production.

greenboy · #1 08/15/07, 09:58 AM

I was told in the next 5 years we are going to be eating cloned Meat and some of our milk is comming from cloned cows as we speak. What you guys think about this? I don't really mind. But I want to know your opinion

Sprout · #2 08/15/07, 01:26 PM

I don't really have a problem with it but I can't see cloning becoming huge, it's still rather expensive and it's alot easier for big and small producer to let nature have it's way. Embryo transfers are ridiculous so unless its a high dollar show animal it ain't happenin.

IMContrary · #3 08/16/07, 10:53 AM

I wanted to vote no for both. I have no desire to eat or drink anything that has been messed with like that.

Teacupliz · #4 08/16/07, 11:07 AM

I agree nasty- to both milk or meat- I will produce my own meat and milk or go with out-. I think they are messing where they should not- gross.
Liz in NY

sammyd · #5 08/16/07, 11:45 PM

They are not messing with anything. A clone is a replica. Nothing has been changed. Nothing added.
Too expensive for most producers. And with a chance to improve things genetically with regular breeding I can't see too many people sticking with it. Sure it would be nice to have a barn full of your best cow, but it would be even better to be able to breed something that can do even better.

pancho · #6 08/16/07, 11:55 PM

Sign me up for both meat and milk. The cost of cloning is pretty high so they will only clone top quality animals. That is better than eating a steak off of some scrub or drinking milk from some dairy reject. At least you know it will be from quality animals.

Reptyle · #7 08/17/07, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by pancho

Sign me up for both meat and milk. The cost of cloning is pretty high so they will only clone top quality animals. That is better than eating a steak off of some scrub or drinking milk from some dairy reject. At least you know it will be from quality animals.

Sounds good to me too.

Teacupliz · #8 08/17/07, 07:14 AM

I still will not be sond on it- And it will inprove my business as I have heard from many local people that this will push them to buying local- Which is the way it should be anyhow. The meat you can buy in a store is already tampered with. additive ect. not for me..
Liz in NY

greenboy · #9 08/17/07, 07:32 AM

Think again, They dont want to waste money and time breeding a possible superior animal, when they already have one, Just copy that one and that's it. I think this is just matter of time, the more you do it the less costly it gets. Believe me is not all the cows on Bob's farms looks the same when you drive around on a summer afternoon with the Miss, they are the same.

And I dont have a problem with that but I am going to have a problem when Farmer Bob Junior and and his cousin and his third cousin they not only look alike, they are the same...

Sprout · #10 08/17/07, 01:23 PM

Neo-Darwinism clash, science often alienates itself from the world. Maybe I'm just not as skeptical but I personally don't see anything wrong with genetic engineering or cloning animals. The world is outgrowing itself and if it can find an efficient animal by these methods I say go for it. Though I admire and raise heritage breeds, on the massively large scale animal production is waged it's just not practical. There's a balance somewhere that we haven’t found. I don't agree with the way animals are raised on CAFOs or battery farms whichever you want to call it, just overall unhealthy and detrimental to the animals and environment. But with the rarity of useable land and the great demand for food we can't all have our own flock of free range chickens for Sunday dinners and morning eggs.

JulieLou42 · #11 08/17/07, 06:44 PM

There's bound to be something wrong crop up in cloning at some point in time. Knowing humans as I do, I just wouldn't trust that something wouldn't.

I will adamantly stick with non-cloned meat and dairy...my own or a near neighbor's, thank you!!!

**ladycat** · #12 08/17/07, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sammyd

They are not messing with anything. A clone is a replica. Nothing has been changed. Nothing added.

Then why do they have such a high death rate and rate of deformities amongst cloned animals?

Sprout · #13 08/17/07, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ladycat

Then why do they have such a high death rate and rate of deformities amongst cloned animals?

Because it is still a delicate procedure. Remember the problems they had with test tube babies? Same stuff here just working out the kinks. And when you look at the weird things that happen in normal births the oddities that occur in cloning aren't that novel.